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19 hours ago, Nike-Ajax said:

Thank you very much - close enough, and obviously for a number of reasons we are not going to play the desert thrust, so this seems spot on.

 

 

So that just leaves the Syrian/Turkish border I guess

 

Just to verify: this is only a .hgt file?

It was made back in sb version 4.0xx. There is both .ter and .hgt in their respective download sections, although there isnt much of anything in the .ter other than sand and desert, roads and tracks. Since SB has always been a long term project, I have been patiently waiting for better DEM/DTM sources to become available for free in order to work on a new improved version, so for the time being we need to make do with what we have. When you convert it to 4.1xx, I recommend that you play with the themes and dont forget to check the "is Dirt" for the proper feature in order to have the fortifications to display the right texture.

 

Btw, do you have the military version of SB?

 

 

 

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3 hours ago, stormrider_sp said:

Btw, do you have the military version of SB?

I don't think he does.

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I had posted this back in May and stormrider_sp had responded that he might be able to help me with a map but I haven't heard back after I had told him I would like to change my map location idea so I'm not sure what happened. He might have gotten too busy to help with this. But what I'm looking for is a scenario map that I can use with the Swedish Strv 122 tank for another campaign. I spent some time looking at the coordinates on google maps and I found this area.

 

The SW corner is 65.801963 - 22.817025, just North of the island of Bjornholmsgrunden

The NE corner is 66.385716 - 24.208169, SouthEast corner of Lake Tormasjarvi

I would like to get the main bridge crossing the river in Overtornea in the North and most of the Hwy 98.

I would like to get the main bridge crossing the river in Tornio in the South and as much of Hwy E4 as possible.

 

If a map like this already exists I would like to know, otherwise is it possible to do it? I'm willing to put in all the buildings, roads & 3d objects as long as no special tools re required to do that other than the SB map editor.

Thanks!

 

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So I see that someone asked about a Norwegian map some time ago, and one of the issues was the lack of height data above 60 Degrees latitude. Correct me if I'm wrong.

Anyways, while the SRTM data does not cover the higher latitudes, I have found some height data for the northern areas of Norway on a Norwegian website. But, I'm not that well versed in what file formats, data formats and whatnot is needed for usable height models.

I would appreciate it if someone that knows what they're doing (ie not me) could have a look at the page and the available formats and options, and give some insight into whether the data is good for use in maps for Steel Beasts Pro PE.

 

The page is from the Norwegian Mapping Authority, and it has both norwegian and english language options (globe in upper right corner on the page). I've already fiddled around with downloads from the site, and it works without any issues. So far I've only tried some small sets, but there's no payment involved and depending on the format choices I make, I get anything from a few Mbs to mane Gbs. But as mentioned, I haven't got a clue whether the formats are usable for map-making.

 

Link to page: https://hoydedata.no/LaserInnsyn/

 

Any input is much appreciated!

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28 minutes ago, Seraphim008 said:

So I see that someone asked about a Norwegian map some time ago, and one of the issues was the lack of height data above 60 Degrees latitude. Correct me if I'm wrong.

Anyways, while the SRTM data does not cover the higher latitudes, I have found some height data for the northern areas of Norway on a Norwegian website. But, I'm not that well versed in what file formats, data formats and whatnot is needed for usable height models.

I would appreciate it if someone that knows what they're doing (ie not me) could have a look at the page and the available formats and options, and give some insight into whether the data is good for use in maps for Steel Beasts Pro PE.

 

The page is from the Norwegian Mapping Authority, and it has both norwegian and english language options (globe in upper right corner on the page). I've already fiddled around with downloads from the site, and it works without any issues. So far I've only tried some small sets, but there's no payment involved and depending on the format choices I make, I get anything from a few Mbs to mane Gbs. But as mentioned, I haven't got a clue whether the formats are usable for map-making.

 

Link to page: https://hoydedata.no/LaserInnsyn/

 

Any input is much appreciated!

I don't speak Norwegian so I couldn't find my way in there. If you can manage to download their DTM 10m, that'd be definitely usable.

 

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9 minutes ago, stormrider_sp said:

I don't speak Norwegian so I couldn't find my way in there. If you can manage to download their DTM 10m, that'd be definitely usable.

 

Ok. DTM 10 is available, but there's still a question about project formats and compression. Btw, would DTM 30 be too coarse?

Project format has USGS DEM and GeoTIFF as options, although for some reason I get an error message whenever I choose USGS DEM.

Compression has NONE, LZW and LZ77 as options.

If you go to the dark grey "toolbar" at the top, there's a globe in the upper right hand corner that gives you the option of english language on the page, btw.

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51 minutes ago, Seraphim008 said:

Ok. DTM 10 is available, but there's still a question about project formats and compression. Btw, would DTM 30 be too coarse?

Project format has USGS DEM and GeoTIFF as options, although for some reason I get an error message whenever I choose USGS DEM.

Compression has NONE, LZW and LZ77 as options.

If you go to the dark grey "toolbar" at the top, there's a globe in the upper right hand corner that gives you the option of english language on the page, btw.

DTM10 is already obsolete these days. It's already possible to find for free 2m or even 1m spatial resolution for both europe and us although how usable they are in Steel Beasts, I couldn't know since the heightmap import tool is still restricted to us normal consumers due to marketing/product positioning.

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4 hours ago, stormrider_sp said:

I couldn't know since the heightmap import tool is still restricted to us normal consumers due to marketing/product positioning.

If you mean the commercial product is lacking some features of the military one to keep the purchase price affordable to consumers, then I guess that's correct. ;)

 

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59 minutes ago, Gibsonm said:

If you mean the commercial product is lacking some features of the military one to keep the purchase price affordable to consumers, then I guess that's correct. ;)

 

I was actually referring to the opposite, but well, the opposite of the inverse is still the opposite, isn't it?

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Right, ok 

But there are still people here with access to Professional version, that takes map requests? I'm fairly confident if I tried preparing the data necessary myself, it'd be utter bollocks in the end, and I don't have access to Professional version anyways.

If I get the right DTM/DTED data and ESRI shape files available via Google Disk, is there anyone that can handle that? I understand it can take some time to get something like this done, of course.

 

As I understand it, anything above 60 Degrees latitude has been out of the question due to lack of height data.

I can get DTM 10, or even DTM 1 over Norway, far north of 60 Degrees latitude, but I still need to know what "project format" and "compression" to use.

 

I've been trying for USGS DEM project format, but that just gives an error message, saying that the coordinate system is not compatible.

So the only option is GeoTIFF, with LZ77, LZW or NO compression.

DTM 10 is easy enough, same with DTM 1 for that matter, but as you can probably guess, the size increases. DTM 10 is a 490-500 Mb download, while DTM 1 is 35-40 Gb, for a given area that I was looking at. Definitely doable, but not much of a point if Steel Beasts can't deal with DTM 1.

And like mentioned, what would the project format be? Is GeoTIFF ok?

Same with compression, what type? LZW, LZ77 or None? 

The same site as linked to above also provides DTED data, but that's DTED 30, which in my head doesn't sound like it'd rip the skin off the sausage, but what do I know... 🤔

 

Final question:

Is there a limit to how large maps can be prepared? I mean, the limit for SB missions/scenarios is fair enough, but is there a "good practice size" for making the map workable and easier to handle?

I read back a bit that 120x120 km was a limit; is that the largest that the map import of SB can handle?

 

Anyone? 🙂

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