RichardG Posted December 18, 2011 Share Posted December 18, 2011 When making a good hit, commander frequently calls "over" or "under" correction, when target was actually hit. This happens a lot. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RIPper Posted December 18, 2011 Share Posted December 18, 2011 I've seen this too 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alicatt Posted December 18, 2011 Share Posted December 18, 2011 Not just the T72 commander, seen it in the Chally2 as well Just me against the horde in instant action and commander calls out "Over, re-engage" and off pops the turret on the Txx even before the loader shouts "Up" 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OnAlienware Posted December 18, 2011 Share Posted December 18, 2011 You're probably engaging a different target than the TC's calling out. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Retro Posted December 18, 2011 Members Share Posted December 18, 2011 Yeah. Note that in the T72 the TC can do nothing but shout, there's no way for him to point you to the target he wants engaged.. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
enigma6584 Posted December 18, 2011 Share Posted December 18, 2011 Yeah. Note that in the T72 the TC can do nothing but shout, there's no way for him to point you to the target he wants engaged..That is not correct. He can take control of the gun and point the gunner to the target. It has happened to me as gunner and I've pointed gunner to target as TC. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OddBall Posted December 18, 2011 Share Posted December 18, 2011 That is not correct. He can take control of the gun and point the gunner to the target. It has happened to me as gunner and I've pointed gunner to target as TC.What I think Retro means, is that if there are many targets in your sight view, the TC's override is not accurate enough to pinpoint separate targets that are close to each other. Oh and to nitpick, he doesn't have control of the gun, but the turret. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Retro Posted December 18, 2011 Members Share Posted December 18, 2011 Uh no actually that Retro guy is an idiot who cannot keep his tanks straight. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Ssnake Posted December 18, 2011 Members Share Posted December 18, 2011 I think I have also witnessed cases where the round passed through the target and hit the ground behind, and the TC then reported "over". Maybe this also played a role. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RIPper Posted December 19, 2011 Share Posted December 19, 2011 I seem to remember it did happen to me mostly in the same situation as Ssnake described - usually shooting a BMP with sabot which passed through it. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SeanPatrick Posted December 19, 2011 Share Posted December 19, 2011 That happens to me all the time in any Leo. Doesn't bother me 'cause all I'm listening for is "Cease fire!" 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sabot_ready Posted December 19, 2011 Share Posted December 19, 2011 I think I have also witnessed cases where the round passed through the target and hit the ground behind, and the TC then reported "over". Maybe this also played a role.This is what I suspect.We have seen this issue for during the last version and just figured you guy knew.Many times a gunner will see the flash of the target being hit but hear short/over.....and start banging his head :bangin: 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dejawolf Posted December 19, 2011 Share Posted December 19, 2011 this happends in the M1 as well. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Moderators Volcano Posted December 19, 2011 Moderators Share Posted December 19, 2011 (edited) Well, technically (from what I remember anyway) sensing of a round is in regards to the splash of the round. So, if you fire a round that happens to go under the tank (between the hull and ground) and it impacts beyond the tank then yes, technically the shot was "over" (beyond) the target. Of course making the report "smart" and based on anything other than the splash on ground is very difficult to do. :shocked:However, as for hits on targets with rounds going through, it does sound like the sensing should be based on the first impact... Edited December 20, 2011 by Volcano 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gibsonm Posted December 19, 2011 Share Posted December 19, 2011 Its not contextual is it? As in based on the round type?So AFPSDS response based on where the round hits a "hard target" (e.g. if it passes through the BMP and then hits the hard tgt of the ground behind it)?Or HESH / HEAT based on where the round detonates (so again say passes through truck canvas side and denotates behind it)? 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tacbat Posted December 20, 2011 Share Posted December 20, 2011 Hit a few T-72's the other night with an M1A1 and saw the flash of the KE round's impact, and was told "Over, reengage". I would expect to hear "Target, reengage". 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Moderators Volcano Posted December 20, 2011 Moderators Share Posted December 20, 2011 Hit a few T-72's the other night with an M1A1 and saw the flash of the KE round's impact, and was told "Over, reengage". I would expect to hear "Target, reengage".That reminds me: I suppose the other consideration is, (rhetorical question) was there a target between you and the vehicle you were shooting at? I had cases where the AI was sensing for a target he wanted me to shoot at which was near the one I was actually shooting at which, needless to say, makes things very confusing. :shocked: 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tacbat Posted December 20, 2011 Share Posted December 20, 2011 Hmm good point. I do think so, but I can take a closer look into it when I get a spare moment. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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