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7 hours ago, Major duck said:

My wish list


1. Detachable F5 Map view so i can move it onto my second screen
2. Update the arty system so the fire coordinator can get corrections from the observers pos and not only his own and make the arty queue more logical and visible
3. Get a compass that works both in 3d view and on the maps with both mils and degrees
4. Get dismounts for the GD M240 all versions and be able to shoot with the MG3 from the scout version
5. Be able to control what each man in a platoon has as a function/armament so we don’t have to make so many workarounds(with the default units) and then group them and give them a call sign as a group so you make each individual and then a weapons/Fire Team, then a Squad/section, then a platoon with the different teams then coys etc... and off course make them reusable like legos. (Sort of like a bottom up callsign template without the c/S template but so you can only chose units from the unit template so if you need more units import another unit template).
6. Make a drag and drop like system for the maps with a configurable icon system (Nato,WAPA,Others,Custom)so we can play without map updates and still fast update our maps with enemy pos etc.. like if we or our staffs drew on the map with a grease pen
7. Make the Centurion 5/2-DK playable, it used the same FCS , TIS and laser system as the leo 1 
8. Get a crew able M113A2 Mk I DK “Wildcat/Mickey Mouse” (Inf Firesupport/Anti helo support vehicle)

9. Get the M41DK1 (Recce/Light Tank)

 

MD

 

 

I would love 1, 2, 3, 5 and 6.

 

A great wish list!

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I get that its a "wish list" but why the ongoing request for a "compass"?

 

AFV crews don't have them, apart from in a pocket if they need to escape and evade (and they wont work inside a big metal box anyway). They certainly wont give you the accuracy to plot artillery missions with Mils accuracy.

 

You navigate using "map to ground " where North is the top of the map.

 

As it is the eSim guys have already given you a "compass" proxy in terms of the AFV outline in the bottom right hand corner so you know both where the AFV is pointing and courtesy of the white dot, the direction where you are looking.

 

Dismounts maybe.

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8 hours ago, Major duck said:

6. Make a drag and drop like system for the maps with a configurable icon system (Nato,WAPA,Others,Custom)so we can play without map updates and still fast update our maps with enemy pos etc.. like if we or our staffs drew on the map with a grease pen

 

If I remember correctly, it currently works in a similar way, except you can only move your own sides icons around the map.  

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1 hour ago, Sean said:

 

If I remember correctly, it currently works in a similar way, except you can only move your own sides icons around the map.  

Hi Sean

 

Jep but you have to go trough a rather big menu where you have to know what it looks like what i was thinking was something like how microsoft visio looks where you can customise which tool boxes there are  and then see what they look like visiually  and then drag them from the box onto the map and just drop them where you think you have seen it that could be a tank, a apc, etc icon 

 

MD

2 hours ago, Gibsonm said:

I get that its a "wish list" but why the ongoing request for a "compass"?

 

AFV crews don't have them, apart from in a pocket if they need to escape and evade (and they wont work inside a big metal box anyway). They certainly wont give you the accuracy to plot artillery missions with Mils accuracy.

 

You navigate using "map to ground " where North is the top of the map.

 

As it is the eSim guys have already given you a "compass" proxy in terms of the AFV outline in the bottom right hand corner so you know both where the AFV is pointing and courtesy of the white dot, the direction where you are looking.

 

Dismounts maybe.

 

Hi Mark

 

as you cant dismount from your tank yet and use your compass to orient your self and as you state cant fire arty with mils accuracy but you could get a much better feel for what direction you look at , and you can fire with that if you know how , you just have to walk them in with with 3-4 guns aka ½ bty thats what you as an sergent in the arty in denmark in the "old" days had to do with live fire during your sergent examination so yes i actually think its a very good idea. a compass arent more accurate then 50 mils anyway.

Even sitting in the turret basket on a centurion as a FO we could use it to get a field for which way was which in the era before gps.

 

I have been missing this very much espesially since our terrain is so "alike" allover that its hard to figure out where you are and in which direction you look at. 

 

MD

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The compass for dismounts is great, I just would want it LESS accurate. (only in 100mil steps as IRL) that way the FO team are again the only ones that can measure azimuth with 1mil accuracy.

 

Also for AFV's...who the f*** needs a compass?? What I would like is the virtual equivalent and that simple plastic tool I always had strapped to my map-board:

http://www.super-gsi.net/neues/wp-content/uploads/2010/01/planzeiger-alpenverein.jpg

We call it a "Planzeiger"...here a pic of a civ. variant.

 

Put a straight line to a gridline, and you can read the mils on the line from you to your target...no stinking compass needed

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4 hours ago, Major duck said:

Hi Mark

 

as you cant dismount from your tank yet and use your compass to orient your self and as you state cant fire arty with mils accuracy but you could get a much better feel for what direction you look at , and you can fire with that if you know how , you just have to walk them in with with 3-4 guns aka ½ bty thats what you as an sergent in the arty in denmark in the "old" days had to do with live fire during your sergent examination so yes i actually think its a very good idea. a compass arent more accurate then 50 mils anyway.

Even sitting in the turret basket on a centurion as a FO we could use it to get a field for which way was which in the era before gps.

 

I have been missing this very much espesially since our terrain is so "alike" allover that its hard to figure out where you are and in which direction you look at. 

 

MD

 

This may overlap with Grenny's response but our FO's (let alone non specialist arm arms guys who call for fire) don't use a compass.

 

Basic process:

 

1. Estimate the location (using the map).

2. Determine the grid bearing from Observer to Target, using a Protractor (see attached) to make it as precise as possible.

3. Transmit that bearing to the Fire Control Centre. They do the Grid to Magnetic conversion, etc.

4. Adjust as required using Binos / Sight.

 

Better process:

 

Use a dedicated vehicle sight to give you that information (like the FO vehicle).

 

Even better process:

 

Use dedicated FO vehicle

Then use a small computer (can't tell you the name) to work it all out and to send the data back to the gun line

 

None of those processes use a magnetic compass.

 

Even dismounted they don't use a compass.

 

Compasses for us are pretty much only used for navigation by foot.

 

protractor ra mils.jpg

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1 hour ago, Bond_Villian said:

The option to 'deploy camo nets' at runtime would be handy. This could be especially useful to recon and FO units that wish to remain static and observe.

 Cheers

 

Sure then spend the next 40min watching it go up and another 20 or so pulling it down.

 

For example: Our SOPs used to be that cam nets only went up if you were at greater than 30mins notice to move. That is, if I say go "now" you actually have 30mins from "now" to go.

 

Most of that 30mins was pulling the net down and stowing it.

 

Be careful what you wish for. :)

 

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23 minutes ago, Gibsonm said:

 

This may overlap with Grenny's response but our FO's (let alone non specialist arm arms guys who call for fire) don't use a compass.

 

Basic process:

 

1. Estimate the location (using the map).

2. Determine the grid bearing from Observer to Target, using a Protractor (see attached) to make it as precise as possible.

3. Transmit that bearing to the Fire Control Centre. They do the Grid to Magnetic conversion, etc.

4. Adjust as required.

 

Better process:

 

Use a dedicated vehicle sight to give you that information (like the FO vehicle).

 

Even better process:

 

Use dedicated FO vehicle

Then use a small computer (can't tell you the name) to work it all out and  to send the data back to the gun line

 

None of those processes use a magnetic compass.

 

Even dismounted they don't use a compass.

 

Compasses for us are pretty much only used for navigation by foot.

 

protractor ra mils.jpg

The TSG-90 that our FO team use as a build in Teodolith and gyroscopic compass  with sub-1mil precision and a LRF. Needed when you want to call fires without wanting to adjust 1st :-P

 

 

So: PLANZEIGER=Protractor, one more for the dictionary

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8 minutes ago, Grenny said:

The TSG-90 that our FO team use as a build in Teodolith and gyroscopic compass  with sub-1mil precision and a LRF. Needed when you want to call fires without wanting to adjust 1st :-P

 

Sure.

 

Sounds like something similar to:

 

32 minutes ago, Gibsonm said:

Even better process:

 

Use dedicated FO vehicle

Then use a small computer (can't tell you the name) to work it all out and  to send the data back to the gun line

 

In terms of usage:

 

1. Basic = what they are taught on course in case all the gadgets fail.

 

2. Better = about 5 years ago.

 

3. Even Better = now. :)

 

But again no compass used in any of them.

 

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42 minutes ago, Gibsonm said:

 

Sure.

 

Sounds like something similar to:

 

 

Yes of course.

Btw: when calling fires for exercises/training, we did indeed use a compass (dismounted though), es this was the fastest way and you did not need to fiddle around with the map too much 800m in front of enemy positions.

Apart from that, from my experice these plastic protractors rarely survived a dismounted approach to the OP...simply no safe pocket to put them in.

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More vehicles please (more Cold War era suggestions):

 

UK FV430 family vehicles (so no need to use M113 stand-ins):

FV432 Armoured Personnel Carrier

FV433 Field Artillery, Self-Propelled "Abbot" - 105 mm self propelled gun built by Vickers

FV434 "Carrier, Maintenance, Full Tracked" - REME Maintenance carrier with a crew of four and a hydraulically driven crane with a lifting capacity of 3,050 kg

FV435 Wavell communications vehicle

FV436 Command and control - some fitted with Green Archer radar, later Cymbeline radar

FV438 Swingfire - Guided missile launcher

FV439 Signals vehicle - Many variants

 

UK Centurion AVRE, Chieftain Bridge-layer, Chieftain ARV.

 

I think perhaps there could be a series of "add-on" vehicle packs, each with a specific theme e.g. British Cold War pack, Arab-Israeli pack etc.

 

I know Esim have a busy schedule and priority is game engine improvement/enhancement - possibly out-source the aditional vehicle packs ?

I do appreciate this is a "wish list" :)

 

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10 hours ago, Major duck said:

Jep but you have to go trough a rather big menu where you have to know what it looks like what i was thinking was something like how microsoft visio looks where you can customise which tool boxes there are  and then see what they look like visiually  and then drag them from the box onto the map and just drop them where you think you have seen it that could be a tank, a apc, etc icon 

 

Or at least the ability to place APP-6C unit/equipment icons on the map?  I'd like to see that, at least for enemy and neutral contacts.

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I wish a

 

 

Checkmark option to reverse or not to reverse palmswich key /keys.

Check mark option for joystick to become all time control of turret. Not as well of the view as currently.

 

Mission editor option to make vehicles start engines shutdown and for AI turning vehicle operational based on desired event.

 

Infantry to act like vehicles and tanks do currently. To actually find hull down position while laying on ground and being able to see and engage while crouching or standing. And to engage target that is nearby but cannot currently be seen. Also to be able to engage with small arms from crouching position.

 

S - key that is default for stopping to give a stay tactics for infantry units.

 

Quick keys to give movement route orders or tactics towards position where mouse is pointing

 

This same also to be possible in sight views. ( Currently only possible in leopard 2 commander day periscope) 

To simulate commander giving orders for platoon or a tank to move to this location.

 

More AI crew voices especially for commands that commander or gunner needs to other to do. Like commander needs gunner to zoom in/out or commander wants driver to go hull down position.

 

 

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49 minutes ago, RedWardancer said:

I want thermal sights for the infantry.  Few things worse than 21st century grunts in a modern army that can only see at night through F8 mode (or with an ATGM sight)! 

 

Image intensifiers / Night Fighting Equipment maybe?

 

I don't think TI has shrunk to the point that its easily man portable (cooling requirements, etc.)?

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1 hour ago, Gibsonm said:

 

Image intensifiers / Night Fighting Equipment maybe?

 

I don't think TI has shrunk to the point that its easily man portable (cooling requirements, etc.)?

 

TI most definitely is man portable now and the small stuff tends to be uncooled. This has been in limited British Army service for a few years:

 

www.qioptiq.com/download/Qioptiq_VIPIR-2_Dec10.pdf
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If we're going to have Cent 5/2 DK use Leo 1 FCS doesn't the latter have a coincidence/stereoscopic RF and the former an RMG? Are RMGs simulated in the game?

Also, would a hand held lensatic compass work on a tank - the tank is a huge chunk of metal with a turret that moves about meaning its magnetic signature must change with respect to the compass?

 

 

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Armed and combative medical vehicles.

 

It's a well known fact that certain armed organizations in modern conflict do not always respect the laws of war, or treat medical units as a non-combatant.

For this reason, I'd like to ask for versions of the M113 Medic and GTK-Boxer medic that are playable and armed.

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I'm not sure this is even doable given that teamspeak is a separate system, but is there some way to lock someone whose vehicle has been killed out of chat for say the next ten minutes? A lot of the time watching videos that are otherwise realistiic/believable representations of warfare, the commander of a vehicle that has just blown up gives a detailed description of what blew him up and where it is located from beyond the grave This is fine in WoT, but it shouldn't happen in SB. Presumably it's disabled in the military training versions.

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