Gibsonm Posted September 13, 2016 Share Posted September 13, 2016 14 minutes ago, ChrisWerb said: Presumably it's disabled in the military training versions. Usually the guy is having a one on one AAR and has their headset off. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ChrisWerb Posted September 13, 2016 Share Posted September 13, 2016 That explains it. Thank you Gibsonm. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Maj.Hans Posted September 13, 2016 Share Posted September 13, 2016 (edited) I've seen some games that had built in voice communications and simulated this pretty well. Their message would get cut off suddenly, or occasionally simulate an open mic for a brief period at the location of their death broadcasting whatever was going on there. Which could be anything from "cough sputter cough choke" to angry foreign yelling, continuing gunfire, or just crickets. In Pro PE terms, I guess players should work on the honor system in big multiplayer matches. If you're in a Red vs. Blue match with humans on both sides and your tank was "destroyed" by a hit, but appears to be entirely intact without any smoke or fire, it might be realistic for you to broadcast "I'm hit! Ambush! Troops in the trees! Bailing out!" If you've got smoke or fire, maybe "Bailing out!" or "Help!" is all that would be realistic. But if your turret went flying in a ball of flame, it might be best to just take your finger off the talk key, go get a cup of coffee, and then move over to the channel specifically for dead players to talk to each other. Oh, wait this is a wish list... I wish for the Leopard 2A4M-CAN....Because it seems to be the 'redheaded stepchild' of the Leopard 2 family that couldn't get enough donations to get upgraded to at least 2A5 status. Edited September 13, 2016 by Maj.Hans 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RedWardancer Posted September 13, 2016 Share Posted September 13, 2016 On 9/11/2016 at 11:49 PM, thewood said: The point remains that infantry can be equipped with NVG, if the scenario designer so chooses. So infantry is not blind at night. I'm going to redesign some of the scenarios. Show me how infantry gains NVG 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rotareneg Posted September 13, 2016 Share Posted September 13, 2016 On 9/11/2016 at 8:16 PM, Gibsonm said: Image intensifiers / Night Fighting Equipment maybe? I don't think TI has shrunk to the point that its easily man portable (cooling requirements, etc.)? Uh... you're a bit behind the times: 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gibsonm Posted September 13, 2016 Share Posted September 13, 2016 1 hour ago, RedWardancer said: I'm going to redesign some of the scenarios. Show me how infantry gains NVG You right click on the unit and enable it in the resulting "options" menu. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gibsonm Posted September 13, 2016 Share Posted September 13, 2016 41 minutes ago, Rotareneg said: Uh... you're a bit behind the times: Perhaps, but just because its in some gadget store doesn't mean its in service with a Infantryman. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ChrisWerb Posted September 13, 2016 Share Posted September 13, 2016 (edited) 1 hour ago, Gibsonm said: Perhaps, but just because its in some gadget store doesn't mean its in service with a Infantryman. Those phone mount TIs are impressive for what they are, but they aren't remotely close to weapon sight resolution. Thermal individual weapon sights definitely are in military service and have been for some years, although I suspect it will be some time until TI (or the more capable fused TI +IIR solution) is anything like universal issue. I already posted the British MoD's choice. Here are a few more. http://defense-update.com/20110216_tws.html https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/AN/PAS-13 http://www.popularmechanics.com/military/weapons/news/a18445/the-goal-is-faster-more-accurate-shooting-at-night/ http://www.baesystems.com/en/product/thermal-weapon-sights-tws http://www.baesystems.com/en/product/oasys-thermal-imaging-and-aiming http://www.atneu.com/thermal-scope-mars-hd-384-1-25x-5x http://www.safran-electronics-defense.com/land-defense/infantry/portable-optronics-infantry/weapon-sights-infantry Edited September 13, 2016 by ChrisWerb 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thewood Posted September 13, 2016 Share Posted September 13, 2016 I used TI as a kiln engineer 20 years ago. A handheld unit that weighed about 5 pounds. But was very short-ranged...about 10 meters at best. And its resolution was about 100 degrees. It couldn't tell the difference between a person and a wall on a warm day. For industrial use, its better today, but the range is significantly less than the light intensification available on a consumer camera. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ghostdog688 Posted September 13, 2016 Share Posted September 13, 2016 10 hours ago, ChrisWerb said: I'm not sure this is even doable given that teamspeak is a separate system, but is there some way to lock someone whose vehicle has been killed out of chat for say the next ten minutes? A lot of the time watching videos that are otherwise realistiic/believable representations of warfare, the commander of a vehicle that has just blown up gives a detailed description of what blew him up and where it is located from beyond the grave This is fine in WoT, but it shouldn't happen in SB. Presumably it's disabled in the military training versions. Easiest way to manage this in TS is to have a rule set that discourages this behaviour. Then move to a waiting area channel or equivalent. Or mute yourself. and then play honestly. Alternatively, accept it as a reality of simming - if you want to maintain immersion, you could always go with the notion these "voices" represent the tactical knowledge and experience that a good tank commander would have ("my teammate on the right is down, fire must be coming from that suspected enemy battle position at 2 o'clock!") 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gibsonm Posted September 13, 2016 Share Posted September 13, 2016 12 minutes ago, thewood said: I used TI as a kiln engineer 20 years ago. A handheld unit that weighed about 5 pounds. But was very short-ranged...about 10 meters at best. And its resolution was about 100 degrees. It couldn't tell the difference between a person and a wall on a warm day. For industrial use, its better today, but the range is significantly less than the light intensification available on a consumer camera. Yes I know things have moved on from say the ANTAS 6A I saw on a tripod, etc: http://dspace.dsto.defence.gov.au/dspace/handle/1947/9918 But if you want something that detects things at say 2,000m and will run for hours then it isn't going to sit in the palm of your hand. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mirzayev Posted September 13, 2016 Share Posted September 13, 2016 There isn't any real way to manage chatting on Teamspeak after your vehicle explodes besides just agreeing on a set of rules to follow. Obviously this depends on how much realism you and your fellow players are going for, and how much stress you want to apply. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ChrisWerb Posted September 13, 2016 Share Posted September 13, 2016 Thank you ghostdog688. You're right on all counts as are other posters above. Here's a nice, if dated, PEO soldier video of the AN/PAS-13. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ChrisWerb Posted September 13, 2016 Share Posted September 13, 2016 This video gives a better idea of clarity (on an AR10 rifle). 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Apocalypse 31 Posted September 13, 2016 Share Posted September 13, 2016 (edited) 1 hour ago, Gibsonm said: Perhaps, but just because its in some gadget store doesn't mean its in service with a Infantryman. Ive used these before. They are impressive. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/AN/PSQ-20 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zGXbgWqpiUw Edited September 13, 2016 by Apocalypse 31 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Grenny Posted September 13, 2016 Share Posted September 13, 2016 9 minutes ago, Apocalypse 31 said: Ive used these before. They are impressive. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/AN/PSQ-20 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zGXbgWqpiUw We've had some nice binocular sized TIS systems in 2006. Where good out to ID things at 1000+ m Downside was they had a sterling-engine for cooling. So many times we could not use them(too loud) 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mirzayev Posted September 13, 2016 Share Posted September 13, 2016 42 minutes ago, Apocalypse 31 said: Ive used these before. They are impressive. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/AN/PSQ-20 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zGXbgWqpiUw Yes! I would take one of those to every field problem I did as a PL. The capabilities it provided more than made up for having one more item to verify prior to sending up a Green 2. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Apocalypse 31 Posted September 13, 2016 Share Posted September 13, 2016 6 minutes ago, Mirzayev said: Yes! I would take one of those to every field problem I did as a PL. The capabilities it provided more than made up for having one more item to verify prior to sending up a Green 2. Just wait until you're a CO CDR and have 50+ to worry about... 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Froggy Posted September 13, 2016 Share Posted September 13, 2016 In every Félin infantry unit, there is one rifle mounted thermal sight for 4 soldiers. The 3 others have IL sights, all with camera that send the video to there group leader. We have hand held thermal imager in every platoon (I had 4 in Ivory Coast in 2003) 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rotareneg Posted September 13, 2016 Share Posted September 13, 2016 I like to think that item #3 indicates that you can use the thermal sight to stab people at night with your bayonet. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Froggy Posted September 14, 2016 Share Posted September 14, 2016 1 hour ago, Rotareneg said: I like to think that item #3 indicates that you can use the thermal sight to stab people at night with your bayonet. A friend had to use it while clearing an eny position... 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ChrisWerb Posted September 14, 2016 Share Posted September 14, 2016 11 hours ago, Rotareneg said: I like to think that item #3 indicates that you can use the thermal sight to stab people at night with your bayonet. That requirement must have come from the US Marine Corps 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ChrisWerb Posted September 14, 2016 Share Posted September 14, 2016 (edited) DARPA is now looking to take the latest Tracking Point system (sans automatic triggering when on target) and add fused TI and II to it along with a daylight channel. I can't find a video of the prototype being tested yet, but this improved Tracking Point scope will give you some idea of the accuracy possible. Before someone says it, I'm not a "Future Weapons" Fan Boy. I have never served in the military, but I have spent a lot of time in the outdoors with rifles and shotguns for over three decades, so know enough about shooting to be impressed by this. Edited September 14, 2016 by ChrisWerb 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ChrisWerb Posted September 14, 2016 Share Posted September 14, 2016 The best article I could find on the DARPA sight. http://www.thefirearmblog.com/blog/2015/04/29/beyond-trackingpoint-darpas-computational-weapon-optic/ 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Maj.Hans Posted September 14, 2016 Share Posted September 14, 2016 1 hour ago, ChrisWerb said: That requirement must have come from the US Marine Corps 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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