Marko Posted October 16, 2018 Share Posted October 16, 2018 2 hours ago, Hedgehog said: Allow me to clarify I am not happy with using the M113 as a FV432 stand in. Esp the A1 / A2 models, That back end looks like the designers just gave up, A3 model is OK Any addition of crewable vehicles is a good thing. If you guys really want a true representation of (BAOR) equipment then we need one of these. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hedgehog Posted October 16, 2018 Share Posted October 16, 2018 11 minutes ago, Marko said: If you guys really want a true representation of (BAOR) equipment then we need one of these. That's the Para's / RM's Version 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ChrisWerb Posted October 16, 2018 Share Posted October 16, 2018 1 hour ago, Hedgehog said: That's the Para's / RM's Version It was lightened to be carried by a Wessex helo, but it was the general service 1/2 ton truck issued to all units - not only paras and RMs. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hedgehog Posted October 16, 2018 Share Posted October 16, 2018 2 hours ago, ChrisWerb said: It was lightened to be carried by a Wessex helo, but it was the general service 1/2 ton truck issued to all units - not only paras and RMs. Still had to take the doors and windows off to do that though. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ChrisWerb Posted October 17, 2018 Share Posted October 17, 2018 On 16/10/2018 at 8:44 PM, Hedgehog said: Still had to take the doors and windows off to do that though. And we ended up buying bigger helicopters 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Ssnake Posted October 17, 2018 Members Share Posted October 17, 2018 If recent SyFy productions are to be believed, nature grows bigger sharks in response. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ChrisWerb Posted October 20, 2018 Share Posted October 20, 2018 On 18/10/2018 at 12:06 AM, Ssnake said: If recent SyFy productions are to be believed, nature grows bigger sharks in response. You watch SyFy productions? 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Ssnake Posted October 22, 2018 Members Share Posted October 22, 2018 Even if I did, I'm not sure what the sad face is for; some people play horrid computer wargames with tanks and scores of dead soldiers in it and find that entertaining. Who am I to be judgmental about media consumption? Not every family can read original Shakespeare in distribuited roles to each other every evening at the fireplace, after practicing the Auloss in the afternoon. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Marko Posted November 6, 2018 Share Posted November 6, 2018 Been researching Chinese Armour recently. Most types are inferior copy's of soviet designs type 59 etc. Not sure if theirs enough Data to model some of the newer designs like the Type 96 upwards. The T-55 currently modeled in SB and the T-72M, Represent PLA Armour very well. The Type 85-11M armed with the 125mm earlier models had a (105mm) But there is one model that interests me, Its the T-59D fitted with a copy of the L7 105 cannon with 1st gen reactive Armour smoke discharges and a better fire control and engine. i believe it would make for a interesting addition to SB. It would IMO, hold its own against some of the earlier NATO Tanks leo-1 M-60 etc 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Captain_Colossus Posted November 6, 2018 Share Posted November 6, 2018 in that time period china is much more likely to fight the soviets and/or vietnam than the west. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Marko Posted November 6, 2018 Share Posted November 6, 2018 36 minutes ago, Captain_Colossus said: in that time period china is much more likely to fight the soviets and/or vietnam than the west. Or even a Indo Chinese campaign. But again it would make for a interesting addition for mission designers I read Sudan had about 300 models of the type -59 not sure if they converted any to the D variant though. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Captain_Colossus Posted November 6, 2018 Share Posted November 6, 2018 don't get me wrong, i would never argue against more content. virtually all the equipment for china that we do have in steel beasts have been removed from active duty service (bmp-1, t-55, pt-76), never really deployed at all (t-62) or approximations of modern equipment using t-72 or leopard 2 or something. i do think in general the west versus china is going to look differently anyway, mostly amphibious or naval operations. outside that, there's no reason fictional but plausible scenarios can't be set up for fun... 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Red2112 Posted November 7, 2018 Share Posted November 7, 2018 Speaking of amphibious, do we have any amphibious IFV/APC´s in SB? Did the Bradley ever become a "workable" amphibious vehicle? Even a better question, dose SB simulate snorkel/amphibious kits. Sorry if this has already been asked. Red 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Marko Posted November 7, 2018 Share Posted November 7, 2018 1 hour ago, Red2112 said: Speaking of amphibious, do we have any amphibious IFV/APC´s in SB? Did the Bradley ever become a "workable" amphibious vehicle? Even a better question, dose SB simulate snorkel/amphibious kits. Sorry if this has already been asked. Red All the soviet IFV/APC in game are Amphibious and a few western designs are also. Tanks snorkeling is not currently modeled 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Ssnake Posted November 7, 2018 Members Share Posted November 7, 2018 We have no specific program for the addition of amphibious vehicles; but if a vehicle has that capability, we simulate it of course. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Red2112 Posted November 7, 2018 Share Posted November 7, 2018 Thanks @Marko and @Ssnake Knew about the soviets in real life, not sure about the Bradley, but which ones are amphibious for the western? Looked at some of the M series on the "wiki" but nothing said. Red 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Captain_Colossus Posted November 7, 2018 Share Posted November 7, 2018 i have a request that external randomly generated stowage displayed on vehicles is a toggle in the mission editor rather than default on. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gibsonm Posted November 7, 2018 Share Posted November 7, 2018 (edited) On 11/8/2018 at 3:22 AM, Red2112 said: Thanks @Marko and @Ssnake Knew about the soviets in real life, not sure about the Bradley, but which ones are amphibious for the western? Looked at some of the M series on the "wiki" but nothing said. Red Off the top of my head .... First Gen Bradley (not modelled) yes. The modelled Bradley isn't. M113 family (except M113AS4). ASLAV PC variant. Edited November 11, 2018 by Gibsonm 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Koen Posted November 7, 2018 Share Posted November 7, 2018 1 hour ago, Captain_Colossus said: i have a request that external randomly generated stowage displayed on vehicles is a toggle in the mission editor rather than default on. Hi Captain C, what would be the advantage of that ? rgds K 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Grenny Posted November 7, 2018 Share Posted November 7, 2018 1 minute ago, Koen said: Hi Captain C, what would be the advantage of that ? rgds K Having platoon markers or company chevrons on the tanks would be of more value me thinks. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gibsonm Posted November 7, 2018 Share Posted November 7, 2018 30 minutes ago, Koen said: Hi Captain C, what would be the advantage of that ? rgds K In some armies external stowage is frowned upon. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Red2112 Posted November 7, 2018 Share Posted November 7, 2018 (edited) 3 hours ago, Gibsonm said: Off the top of my head .... First Gen Bradley (not modelled) yes. The modelled Bradley isn't. M113 family. ASLAV PC variant Thank you Sir! Yes, knew the first gen Bradley had the curtain set up, but red that it didn´t turn out to good, and you could not shoot once the curtain was up. I just wonderd if they ever got around a better kit after the first gen. Now knowing we have amphibious capability in SB, the obvious questions is, what water mark (legend on map) should we look for that dictates a amphibious vehicle can cross/move through it? As in shallow water maybe etc. Or is it by trail and error? Again, thank you Mark. <S> -- Edited November 7, 2018 by Red2112 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Parachuteprone Posted November 8, 2018 Share Posted November 8, 2018 Really hoping for some modern Chinese equipment as AI . 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Ssnake Posted November 8, 2018 Members Share Posted November 8, 2018 2 hours ago, Red2112 said: Now knowing we have amphibious capability in SB, the obvious questions is, what water mark (legend on map) should we look for that dictates a amphibious vehicle can cross/move through it? If it swims, it swims, no matter how deep the water is. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gibsonm Posted November 8, 2018 Share Posted November 8, 2018 (edited) 7 hours ago, Red2112 said: Yes, knew the first gen Bradley had the curtain set up, but red that it didn´t turn out to good, and you could not shoot once the curtain was up. I just wonderd if they ever got around a better kit after the first gen. It became irrelevant because they up armoured it so it was no longer amphibious. Same thing with the weapon ports - subsequent up armouring blocked off the ports. 7 hours ago, Red2112 said: Now knowing we have amphibious capability in SB, the obvious questions is, what water mark (legend on map) should we look for that dictates a amphibious vehicle can cross/move through it? As in shallow water maybe etc. Or is it by trail and error? Well you need to look for suitable entry and exit points. Once you are in the water it will float - its the getting in and out that are the tricky bit. There is no "ford" or similar marker on the map. There are points that the map will suggest are more "likely" than others (e.g.: a water course cutting into hill creating a gorge is unlikely) but you need to do a reconnaissance in the 3D world and look at slope, vegetation, terrain type, etc. Edited November 8, 2018 by Gibsonm 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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