mpow66m Posted May 21, 2015 Share Posted May 21, 2015 dismounts that shoot while moving. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Marko Posted May 21, 2015 Share Posted May 21, 2015 dismounts that shoot while moving.Infantry officers/NCO's shouting commands at there platoons Commands like cover fire. suppressive fire etc.Doubt it will ever happen but would be fun as hell if it did.I can think of a few forum members who would make good voice actors. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Grenny Posted May 21, 2015 Share Posted May 21, 2015 dismounts that shoot while moving.At what range?? 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Grenny Posted May 21, 2015 Share Posted May 21, 2015 Commands like cover fire. suppressive fire etc.The effect is already there 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gibsonm Posted May 21, 2015 Share Posted May 21, 2015 dismounts that shoot while moving.Do you mean "spray and pray" while running or run, stop, aim, fire, run, etc. ? 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Grenny Posted May 21, 2015 Share Posted May 21, 2015 Do you mean "spray and pray" while running or run, stop, aim, fire, run, etc. ?Well a start would be shooting while standing/kneeling. Prone-only is a bit dull right now :-PThe shoot on the move stuff...there are rare cases when you'd need it.assault=> break in into enemy positions/ sudden close range engagements* etc etc*interesting thing is that those now make 80% of our shooting training so called "NSAK-shooting" 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Marko Posted May 21, 2015 Share Posted May 21, 2015 The effect is already thereI meant for the inf. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Grenny Posted May 21, 2015 Share Posted May 21, 2015 I meant for the inf.I meant: you can give the Inf. a :"supress here" order. So in that sense... 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mpow66m Posted May 22, 2015 Share Posted May 22, 2015 At what range?? shooting from kneeling pos,which is the most practical besides prone.supported positions like kneeling behind a vehicle and such.maybe a ''if contact'' a-troops go prone-if -xx, b- troops go kneeling-if xx.all AI controlled or human.you can set a range ring like w/ the AFVs.shooting from the standing pos leaning against a tree or such.I dont mean like dynamic entries and such.hand grenades would be useful too,i think their usefullness on the BF is underrated by alot of persons.in an urban enviroment the can be devastating.:gun: the dismounts need a little more options,and if a few things were done,they could reach their overlooked potential. also trees that stop turrets from going thru them instead of blocking movement,that would really mess up som ones day.no more driving thru the forest w/out consequences. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mpow66m Posted May 22, 2015 Share Posted May 22, 2015 Do you mean "spray and pray" while running or run, stop, aim, fire, run, etc. ? no spray and pray,aimed fire.im up,bang bang,he sees me,im down,bang bang.actions like that. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gibsonm Posted May 22, 2015 Share Posted May 22, 2015 also trees that stop turrets from going thru them instead of blocking movement,that would really mess up som ones day.no more driving thru the forest w/out consequences. +++1 for Barrel Strikes 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lt DeFault Posted May 22, 2015 Share Posted May 22, 2015 Infantry officers/NCO's shouting commands at there platoons +1I have a FPS game for the original X-box called Full Spectrum Warrior which had this feature. As a platoon leader, you could designate a general area and your character would shout, "Covering fire!!!" at which point the platoon would do just that. It was awesome.Hmmm...I'm looking at the game right now. Considering I still have the X-box hooked up in my living room, I just might fire it up right now! :gun: 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Retro Posted May 22, 2015 Members Share Posted May 22, 2015 It's actually a free download for PC these days. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Marko Posted May 22, 2015 Share Posted May 22, 2015 +1I have a FPS game for the original X-box called Full Spectrum Warrior which had this feature. As a platoon leader, you could designate a general area and your character would shout, "Covering fire!!!" at which point the platoon would do just that. It was awesome.Hmmm...I'm looking at the game right now. Considering I still have the X-box hooked up in my living room, I just might fire it up right now! :gun:I also played it on the Xbox back in the day.I was originally jesting about infantry voice commands being implemented in SB.But the more I think about it.Sometimes its not the big features like additional vehicles etc. that make a difference The feature that stands out for me in the last update was the way the Arty sounds wereimproved. I nearly dived for cover when I first heard them.Lol 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hedgehog Posted May 22, 2015 Share Posted May 22, 2015 +++1 for Barrel Strikes We all know what the AI is like. Every time you want to hide in a treeline or even next to a tree, jump out to see what's going on somewhere else, jump back, and smack. No more turret. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lt DeFault Posted May 22, 2015 Share Posted May 22, 2015 It's actually a free download for PC these days.Awesome, thanks! 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Marko Posted May 22, 2015 Share Posted May 22, 2015 (edited) Awesome, thanks! Off topic I know. But imagine a simulation like full spectrum integrated with SB I know the Australian army already does combine SB with another simulation. IMO, that's the way forward for the milsim market. Edited May 22, 2015 by Marko 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Graycap3 Posted May 22, 2015 Share Posted May 22, 2015 Also if you are playing with enemy map updates "on" you are arguably already seeing a bunch of information that is often not instantly available to a RL commander.The Red icon on the screen gives you: Their location Their orientation to you The type of unit (from what the symbol is) etc. Often in RL the TIC gives you "contact wait out" and the people in the CP then start their fight for information. Thank you for your comment. The problem I face is that if I play for example as a platoon commander I have no one telling me how the situation seems developing. I lack the upper echelon to give me guidance... I have to become the upper echelon. When I study an AAR in a FFW, the maneuver appear more transparent. I can't use fast forward in map screen starting from any previous time. If I could I would design "arrows" on my map signaling the enemy movement until that moment and maybe the picture could be better. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Grenny Posted May 22, 2015 Share Posted May 22, 2015 Thank you for your comment.The problem I face is that if I play for example as a platoon commander I have no one telling me how the situation seems developing.I lack the upper echelon to give me guidance...I have to become the upper echelon. When I study an AAR in a FFW, the maneuver appear more transparent. I can't use fast forward in map screen starting from any previous time.If I could I would design "arrows" on my map signaling the enemy movement until that moment and maybe the picture could be better.That is why multiplayer really shines in Steelbeasts. You should try it...all skill levels are welcome :-)Your fellow TC's in the platoon will spot and asses the situations for you while you're busy making a plan.While a humand company commaders can give your platoon a (hopefully) fitting task.The missions in Steelbeasts are as dynamic as the screnario designer makes them, or in a human vs human game it depends on how "creative" you opponent is.The why that other games simulate HICON/LOCON...by having railfenced missions and preset "SITREPS"... simply can not work well in Steelbeasts.Also there is no software right now that possibly could deduce enemy intent from the spotting of units. And if there is one, I seriously worry for my reservist job in the G3OPS-cell...I can be replaced by a Computer :-( 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hedgehog Posted May 22, 2015 Share Posted May 22, 2015 Also there is no software right now that possibly could deduce enemy intent from the spotting of units. And if there is one, I seriously worry for my reservist job in the G3OPS-cell...I can be replaced by a Computer :-( Yet..... And then it'll become "self aware" And then it will start screaming "KILL ALL HUMANS!!!" And then you say "Not all humans, only the enemy's humans." And then it will remark "Arrrrgh! You all look the same to me!" (All defence computers are slightly unhinged) 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Grenny Posted May 22, 2015 Share Posted May 22, 2015 Yet.....And then it'll become "self aware" And then it will start screaming "KILL ALL HUMANS!!!" And then you say "Not all humans, only the enemy's humans." And then it will remark "Arrrrgh! You all look the same to me!" (All defence computers are slightly unhinged) Kill all humans will be hardcoded into the system. Then you make a whitelist with exeptions so your own side is safe. What could possibly go wrong? 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rump Posted May 22, 2015 Share Posted May 22, 2015 Off topic I know.But imagine a simulation like full spectrum integrated with SB I know the Australian army already does combine SB with another simulation. IMO, that's the way forward for the milsim market. Integrate with just one other simulation? Pfwa! Here's an article (in Dutch) about SBPro integrated with VBS, ELIAS (Dutch Battle Management System), AFSIS (Operational Artillery management system) and MCTC (Field training exercise system). http://magazines.defensie.nl/landmacht/2015/03/naar-een-hoger-level-gading 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Grenny Posted May 22, 2015 Share Posted May 22, 2015 -BMP-3 using HE-Shells for their 100mm gun-Artillery able to do direct fire (again) 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Marko Posted May 22, 2015 Share Posted May 22, 2015 Integrate with just one other simulation? Pfwa!Here's an article (in Dutch) about SBPro integrated with VBS, ELIAS (Dutch Battle Management System), AFSIS (Operational Artillery management system) and MCTC (Field training exercise system).http://magazines.defensie.nl/landmacht/2015/03/naar-een-hoger-level-gadingImpressive.Military customers have the finances to make things Happen.Lets just hope the big players in the milsim development market see the potentialOf some sort of modular game engine for the home market. I know it sounds like a unrealistic prospect,But IMO it would revolutionize and reinvigorate the milsim Market. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Grenny Posted May 22, 2015 Share Posted May 22, 2015 Impressive.Military customers have the finances to make things Happen.Lets just hope the big players in the milsim development market see the potentialOf some sort of modular game engine for the home market. I know it sounds like a unrealistic prospect,But IMO it would revolutionize and reinvigorate the milsim Market.The prospect makes it look easy.If you speak with the people involved, it was an gargantuan effort with much time needed and the programmers of the different softwares beeing present to fix "sh*t".It is not like you just do...plug and play. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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