desertowl Posted April 17, 2008 Share Posted April 17, 2008 Is there any Merkava skin out there?I'm mainly interested in a skin for the 2A5...thanks for anyone who can help.Moshe. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
daskal Posted April 17, 2008 Share Posted April 17, 2008 No there isn't any out there at the moment, but thats a really good idea you got there. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
desertowl Posted April 17, 2008 Author Share Posted April 17, 2008 Well, since I'm not the artist type, I really can't make one my own, but if someone would "raise the glove", I'll be happy to assist with photos of the angles required, or any other additional info (as long as it doesn't compromise field security). Moshe. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hedgehog Posted April 17, 2008 Share Posted April 17, 2008 what colour are they painted???Acorrding to Revell its some weird green/beige colour 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
desertowl Posted April 17, 2008 Author Share Posted April 17, 2008 I don't have the exact RAL or FED 595b definition on me, but I'll try to get it.http://www.precise3d.com/warehouse/idf-merkava-mkiiid-mbt-3d-model-p-35.html?products_id=35this guy did amazing job on creating this highly accurate 3d CAD model of MKIII BAZ, the color is also accurate' although there are some missing markings on canvas here and there. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
oscar19681 Posted April 18, 2008 Share Posted April 18, 2008 Hey man those are some interesting and detailed images of the merkava. Would be nice to see a leo2a5 with a merkava skin. But personally i dont think the leo2a5 comes anything close to the merkava when it comes to the characatistics. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
desertowl Posted April 18, 2008 Author Share Posted April 18, 2008 Well, we'll have to make do with what we have if anything, it resembles the MK III (still doesn't gets esim off the hook as far as it comes to modeling the Merkava for real ) - I saw some desert skins for the Leo that with some tweaking might be a good base to work on. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Marko Posted April 19, 2008 Share Posted April 19, 2008 Well, we'll have to make do with what we have if anything, it resembles the MK III (still doesn't gets esim off the hook as far as it comes to modeling the Merkava for real ) - I saw some desert skins for the Leo that with some tweaking might be a good base to work on. I don't think we will see a merkava Modeled unless the IDF purchase SB. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tacbat Posted April 19, 2008 Share Posted April 19, 2008 A quick colour change: 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
daskal Posted April 22, 2008 Share Posted April 22, 2008 Although I'm not a great skinner those 3D model pics got me interested pretty much, I'll get to work on it 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
desertowl Posted April 22, 2008 Author Share Posted April 22, 2008 great!here is a good link to start with:http://www.israeli-weapons.com/weapons/vehicles/tanks/merkava/MerkavaMk3.htmlBTW - its a really good overall site for Israeli tanks and IFV's.http://books.google.co.il/books?id=ldRRP_UnIjgC&pg=PA46&lpg=PA46&dq=tactical+markings+israeli&source=web&ots=-RFXTJDKZm&sig=lw3zMDMqkH-yBfdwsszrFZflOhI&hl=en#PPA44,M1page 44 has an explanation on the tactical markings location and meaning.if you need elaboration or additional photos just ask! 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
daskal Posted April 22, 2008 Share Posted April 22, 2008 O, I've started working on it. Here are two early shots for testing the color - without detail: 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
desertowl Posted April 22, 2008 Author Share Posted April 22, 2008 looks like a promising start!the grainy texture should be on the sloped surfaces of the turret as well, like in here:http://www.idf-in-scale.com/image/merkava3D_06.jpgand the color should be a bit darker, something between humbrol 83-84 I guess:http://www.humbrol.com/paints/all-paints/aa0922-84-mid-stone-14ml-matt-enamel-tinlet/?searchguid=2008422222653&resultspage=it's kinda hard to capture the exact tone , especially because the paint wears and gets dirty so each tank has its own personality.take note that the engine on the merkava is in the front, might be cool to put the vent and black soot, if it's possible:http://www.militarypictures.info/d/159-2/IDF_MerkavaMk3c.jpg 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LtGeorge Posted April 23, 2008 Share Posted April 23, 2008 Looks like a good start! I tried making an Israeli scenario once with Leo2A5 and CV90 dealing with a bunch of highly mobile ATGM teams, but it was hard to convince myself it was an IDF sim. The Leo2A5 works well in a pinch and the color jobs here take it close enough to be plausible. The Israeli AFVs are totally different, though, and there isn't a good counterpart in SB. That and no Hebrew voices. I always loved the chain-and-ball head dress on the Merkava's bustle. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
desertowl Posted April 23, 2008 Author Share Posted April 23, 2008 indeed - no IFV in the game resembles anything we have in the IDF (except for m113 and its variants, of course), however - the IDF doesn't have a real IFV and most of its heavy non tank vehicles are APC's with a limited fire capability (usually few M-240 and a 0.5 under hull system).the NAMER might change the picture - though initially it is said to be equipped with 0.5 RCWS system only, so the problem remains mainly the infantry simulation. The enemy itself, in some sectors, is almost exclusively Dependant on infantry forces (Lebanon, Gaza strip). 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
oscar19681 Posted May 7, 2008 Share Posted May 7, 2008 indeed - no IFV in the game resembles anything we have in the IDF (except for m113 and its variants, of course), however - the IDF doesn't have a real IFV and most of its heavy non tank vehicles are APC's with a limited fire capability (usually few M-240 and a 0.5 under hull system).the NAMER might change the picture - though initially it is said to be equipped with 0.5 RCWS system only, so the problem remains mainly the infantry simulation. The enemy itself, in some sectors, is almost exclusively Dependant on infantry forces (Lebanon, Gaza strip).Yeah regarding the enemy infantry brings us back to the sort of a symetrical warfare that is not realy featured in sbp. The best scenerio i could think of would be the israel libanon conflict becuase this is somehat closer to conventional warfare in the sence that there are no non combatants in the conflict. One more thing does sbp have any maps that resemble the gaze strip of the libanon scenrios? 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
alpha6 Posted May 30, 2008 Share Posted May 30, 2008 wait WTF I just posted this and I didn't even see this! 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ChuikovChambered Posted May 30, 2008 Share Posted May 30, 2008 This is a jumping forum, so it's no wonder. You might not have noticed it if you had been in a hurry. It happens to me too. By the way, nice picture.:cool3: 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
alpha6 Posted May 30, 2008 Share Posted May 30, 2008 Thank you and here are some pics if you want 'em: 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ChuikovChambered Posted May 30, 2008 Share Posted May 30, 2008 Posted by alpha6Thank you and here are some pics if you want 'em:Thanks a lot!:luxhello: I want the "You got owned!" pic as my avatar, but it's at 20KBs and 400x220 pixels. I already have it saved on my desktop, so how do I shrink it down enough to be uploaded? I'll keep it in my signature for now, just to have it with me.:smilelove-1: And where can I find more of those cool pics? 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kingtiger Posted May 30, 2008 Share Posted May 30, 2008 Thanks a lot!:luxhello: I want the "You got owned!" pic as my avatar, but it's at 20KBs and 400x220 pixels. I already have it saved on my desktop, so how do I shrink it down enough to be uploaded? I'll keep it in my signature for now, just to have it with me.:smilelove-1: And where can I find more of those cool pics? here 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ChuikovChambered Posted May 30, 2008 Share Posted May 30, 2008 Thanks a lot, Kingtiger!:eek: I'll keep the pic in my signature so people can read the caption. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kingtiger Posted May 31, 2008 Share Posted May 31, 2008 You own me a beer now. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ChuikovChambered Posted May 31, 2008 Share Posted May 31, 2008 Posted by KingtigerYou own me a beer now.I usually deal only with root beer, actually. Here's my favorite root beer:http://store.drsoda.com/hanrootbeer.htmlIt's the only kind I usually drink. All natural, and creamy. But still some bite to it. Just let me know if the source I linked to ships to Sweden (I'll be out for most of the day, so post as soon as you can so I can check when I get back). 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kingtiger Posted May 31, 2008 Share Posted May 31, 2008 http://idfmodelling.free.fr/article01.htmlthe Merkava should be in "Lebanon War 1982" colour shouldnt? looks like the same colour like on that 3D model merk. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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