NVG-s in the 80's

[Invader ZIM]

I think your completely right about that Tjay.

One advantage of the NVG's is that you don't have to be careful with your eyes at night... What I mean is in the sense that you're trying to avoid any point light sources, and taking care preserving your natural night vision, as well as the long wait until your eyes are completely dark adapted.

I've used the PVS-14 monocular extensively, and you train to use both eyes open, even though the system covers only one. After about 30 min, the natural dark adapted eye becomes pretty useful for depth perception and wide field of view, for nearby threats. The eye with the NVG is useful for seeing targets out at ranges your natural night vision just can't see.

But your right, it's impressive what our own natural eyesight can do if given time to adjust, I just can't imagine moving a Leopard tank around without them lol.

I also don't recommend driving your Buick off road around the fields with all the lights off wearing a set of PVS-14's, I cracked my front bumper going over a dip I didn't see. And found you can overdrive your field of view at over 30mph.

[Alicatt]

Here in Limburg there is so much light pollution that you can practically see in colour at night!

Recently they have started turning off the motorway lights at about 2am to save a little money but it is still bright here and I live on the edge of town.

[Tim Burton]

In the days before night vision aids people worked on maximising their night vision by using minimum lights, deliberately not looking at naked lights, letting their eyes become accustomed to the dark, etc, etc. It's surprising what you can see in the 'pitch black' if you use such techniques and have patience. But we now have a generation who have been brought up on NVAs and never done this - and so are mystified as to how anyone can 'see in the dark' at all. IMHO, of course.

Not true. I'm in a SOF unit and we trained both. I won't lie to you, I'd prefer NVG ( even Mono) over the naked eye, but the naked eye does have some benefits. It definitely makes it hard to use depth perception with a mono goggle.

Contrary to video games you don't aim down a site with them very much. Just better to guestimate and hit the PEQ-5 laser to verify. The second the laser is on target, pull the trigger.

The Mark XIVs are better at aiming down the site, but the main problem is that the goggles are pointing straight ahead and you tend to move your eye to look up a bit when you shoulder a rifle and aim.

If you are doing a night raid and you have time to set up and zero, you double stack the risers or use a riser and an ELCAN with a Doctor Sight on it. Then with a little practice you can look down the site second nature.

With a new moon, we were doing team drills. One guy with a goggle and one without. Both were pulling guard on a sector.

With the double eye Mark XIV you focus your aiming eye to infinity and your non-dominate eye at 3-5 feet.

Driving sucks with them, no matter what you do. Depth perception is just miserable.

Coolest part of NVGs? Watching shooting stars and making wishes, you see so many starts that are invisible to the naked eye in the middle of no where with a new moon, it is enchanting. My last wish didn't come true though.

[Tjay]

Not true. I'm in a SOF unit and we trained both.

That's encouraging to know. So often, an 'aid' to something comes along and people immediately become dependent on it. I took part in some trials of NVGs for helicopter pilots back when Pontius was a pilot. They were bloody dangerous! But I gather things have improved since then - as they should.

[hoggydog]

back when Pontius was a pilot.

Best quip EVER!

[Invader ZIM]

LOL, that was witty!

[Lt DeFault]

Agreed!

[Hedgehog]

Best quip EVER!

*Sigh*

[Tjay]

LOL, that was witty!

Almost as old as Pontius himself, that one. But thanks anyway.

[Tim Burton]

That's encouraging to know. So often, an 'aid' to something comes along and people immediately become dependent on it. I took part in some trials of NVGs for helicopter pilots back when Pontius was a pilot. They were bloody dangerous! But I gather things have improved since then - as they should.

Enjoy my day at the range:

http://simhq.com/forum/ubbthreads.php/topics/3789952/A_blast_of_a_day_at_the_range#Post3789952

[Ssnake]

This was a bit of a non sequitur...?

[Tjay]

Enjoy my day at the range:

http://simhq.com/forum/ubbthreads.php/topics/3789952/A_blast_of_a_day_at_the_range#Post3789952

Thanks Tim. 'Now let me see, does the blue wire connect to the yellow wire or the red wire? Or is it the gr.....'

[mpow66m]

are you an EOD?

[Tim Burton]

are you an EOD?

No, I am in 3-10 SFG(A). I spent 10 years trying to get into the Army. I was finally given the waivers, but was rejected my commission. I signed up 11X-ray and promptly broke my foot. I had wanted to get in, go fight, and call it a day. I was forced reclass to 92Whiskey. I didn't want to go to Ft. Riley, KS so I went to jump school. I ended up here in Ft. Carson.

I'm in my mid-30s, but I perform better than most 20 year olds. A lot of the teams have come to respect me and treat me well, so they offer me as much training as I want. I'm actually probably a better infantry soldier than had I actually done the 11 Series.

So the other day the 18Charlies came over to my office and asked if I wanted to join them to blow up a HMMV. Of course I took them up on the offer.

[Hedgehog]

No, I am in 3-10 SFG(A). I spent 10 years trying to get into the Army. I was finally given the waivers, but was rejected my commission. I signed up 11X-ray and promptly broke my foot. I had wanted to get in, go fight, and call it a day. I was forced reclass to 92Whiskey. I didn't want to go to Ft. Riley, KS so I went to jump school. I ended up here in Ft. Carson.

I'm in my mid-30s, but I perform better than most 20 year olds. A lot of the teams have come to respect me and treat me well, so they offer me as much training as I want. I'm actually probably a better infantry soldier than had I actually done the 11 Series.

So the other day the 18Charlies came over to my office and asked if I wanted to join them to blow up a HMMV. Of course I took them up on the offer.

So how did that conversation go?

*Knock Knock*

"Yeah?"

"Hey Sarge we snaffled a dead Humvee from the grease monkeys.

We wanna blow it up. You in?..... Hey, Sarge?"

*Sgt Tim, Halfway out the door*

"What you waiting for Specialist? Lets Go!"

:biggrin:

[Invader ZIM]

LOL, that's how I pictured it, of course I think about 98% of all red blooded males would already be halfway to said Humvee if asked the same question.

Congrats on the fun Sgt. and thanks for the photos!!

[Tim Burton]

So how did that conversation go?

*Knock Knock*

"Yeah?"

"Hey Sarge we snaffled a dead Humvee from the grease monkeys.

We wanna blow it up. You in?..... Hey, Sarge?"

*Sgt Tim, Halfway out the door*

"What you waiting for Specialist? Lets Go!"

:biggrin:

LOL! Actually, it is a bit of the other way around. I got screwed out of OCS, so I'm stuck as a SPC, due to time in service waivers not happening. Once you are on a team you automatically hit E-5, when you become a junior on a team you are promoted to E-6, and a senior is E-7.

That said, I live a strange life because I have a MS. I actually have E-5s who take orders from me. I'm actually doing the job of an E-6. I'm on really good terms with the team guys, they want me to go to selection, so even though I'm a red hatter, I still do a lot with them.

I'm in my mid-30's and have had 18 surgeries including a rebuilt knee and 2 operations on my elbow. So I'm not 100% sold on the idea yet. Maybe if they guaranteed me a slot at HALO school, I'm not a fan of being a lawn dart. It isn't the jumps, it's the landings.

Night jump in 24 hours from now.

[Tim Burton]

LOL, that's how I pictured it, of course I think about 98% of all red blooded males would already be halfway to said Humvee if asked the same question.

Congrats on the fun Sgt. and thanks for the photos!!

I'll tell you I had a got of support guys jealous of me. Even an E-6 and an E-7. Both have been here for years and not gotten the chances I've had. It has to do with the fact I'm very personable and I have a work ethic that few rival. I was supposed to be early released today, I ended up leaving with only 3 others in the office, everyone else went home.

Maybe it is because the woman of my dreams walked away when she realized I was going to ask her to marry me. Since my unit has no females, it takes a bit to meet a new woman.

[Gibsonm]

Night jump in 24 hours from now.

Watch out for the trees!

Soft Landings!

[Tacbat]

Night jump in 24 hours from now.

Got an extra chute?

[Hedgehog]

LOL! Actually, it is a bit of the other way around. I got screwed out of OCS, so I'm stuck as a SPC, due to time in service waivers not happening. Once you are on a team you automatically hit E-5, when you become a junior on a team you are promoted to E-6, and a senior is E-7.

That said, I live a strange life because I have a MS. I actually have E-5s who take orders from me. I'm actually doing the job of an E-6. I'm on really good terms with the team guys, they want me to go to selection, so even though I'm a red hatter, I still do a lot with them.

I'm in my mid-30's and have had 18 surgeries including a rebuilt knee and 2 operations on my elbow. So I'm not 100% sold on the idea yet. Maybe if they guaranteed me a slot at HALO school, I'm not a fan of being a lawn dart. It isn't the jumps, it's the landings.

Night jump in 24 hours from now.

I Remember reading John "Lofty" Wiseman' memoirs, in the early days he said the "X type" parachute, just made sure he landed feet first, didn't do anything to slow him down.

Maybe it is because the woman of my dreams walked away when she realized I was going to ask her to marry me.

I feel your pain and I'm sorry to hear that.

Oh well, her loss.

I guess when army retirement looms, try moving to a more populous area?

Is a bit difficult to meet new girls in the middle of nowhere. :biggrin: