OnAlienware Posted July 5, 2013 Share Posted July 5, 2013 We haven't heard much about 3.0's included scenarios. With more trial-oriented licenses becoming available, these scenarios will (in my opinion) become more important. Previous upgrades have left scenarios largely unchanged, with odd place-holder vehicles and buildings. New features weren't implemented, and at least one scenario was broken. I can already hear the chorus telling me (again) to fix it myself, which is fine for me. It's not fine for new people, who'll judge SB on the basis of its official content. When they do, I hope they see the richness of 3.0. Any word on included scenarios? 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gibsonm Posted July 5, 2013 Share Posted July 5, 2013 Well I'm guess the team is flat out getting the software to work at the moment. Scenarios may well be considered a supporting effort. No doubt if people were to accept a December release date they'd probably get a good piece of software and revised scenarios, but I think most people want it "yesterday". 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scrapper_511 Posted July 6, 2013 Share Posted July 6, 2013 ...but I think most people want it "yesterday". Nice Gibsonm, I see what you did there. :debile2: And dang, I thought this thread was an official announcement from Ssnake. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hoggydog Posted July 6, 2013 Share Posted July 6, 2013 Maybe a 3.0 scenario competition would be a good idea?There are a number of scenario competition winners bundled with the current version, not sure how they worked as I was out of the community then, maybe it could be done again? 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BigBadVuk Posted July 6, 2013 Share Posted July 6, 2013 With all new things added in 3.0 im quite sure all scenario designers cant wait to enhance their old designs and to try new features in some situations which were impossible to represent correctly ( did any1 mentioned civilians or one of sides switching alliance in the middle of a battle ) :biggrin:.So even if we get 3.0 without 1 single new scenario, and i doubt this will happen, we will have bunch of new battles, with all new features within days. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mpow66m Posted July 6, 2013 Share Posted July 6, 2013 December???!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OnAlienware Posted July 6, 2013 Author Share Posted July 6, 2013 I don't think we can reasonably expect new people to sift through user-created content to uncover 3.0's potential. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tacbat Posted July 6, 2013 Share Posted July 6, 2013 The potential lies within the release notes, but we all know how many people actually take the time to read them... 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tjay Posted July 8, 2013 Share Posted July 8, 2013 I don't think we can reasonably expect new people to sift through user-created content to uncover 3.0's potential.+1. This is also the reason I would like the release notes - and most definitely the manual - NOT to refer to new features as 'upgraded from' or 'added to v.2.654. Players familiar with the existing game will be able to work these things out for themselves, while it doesn't add any useful information for newbies. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Azure Lion Posted July 8, 2013 Share Posted July 8, 2013 With all the new things being implemented with v3.0, I don't mind waiting till "yesterday" sometime in December 2013. Doesn't mean I'm not anxiously awaiting its release though. Quality > Speedy in my humble opinion, that and I don't want the eSim crew to wear themselves out. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Ssnake Posted July 9, 2013 Members Share Posted July 9, 2013 It's not about wearing out, it's about testers' and developers' fatigue. Once that you start preparing a release, everybody gets into high gear, and you just HAVE to get it out of the door at some point. With shifting release deadlines there's a serious danger of feature creep (well, it's more of a temptation with the associated danger of introducing new problems).You cannot maintain the (positive) tension of a pre-release phase forever, at some point we just have to let go. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Azure Lion Posted July 10, 2013 Share Posted July 10, 2013 Oh, in that case, let's get a move on it people, hurry up with the release, I don't want you all getting too fatigued and feature creeping! :debile2: 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
enigma6584 Posted July 10, 2013 Share Posted July 10, 2013 No, take your time and release it when it is ready. Preferably IMHO when new smoke and fire animations work. :diable: 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
john.gear Posted July 11, 2013 Share Posted July 11, 2013 Oh, in that case, let's get a move on it people, hurry up with the release, I don't want you all getting too fatigued and feature creeping! :debile2:I agree. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gibsonm Posted July 11, 2013 Share Posted July 11, 2013 No, take your time and release it when it is ready. Preferably IMHO when new smoke and fire animations work. :diable:Well I think that is the decision point. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OnAlienware Posted July 25, 2013 Author Share Posted July 25, 2013 I was excited to read (in another thread) that there's a multi-scenario op included, possibly two. Can we get a little more info on them? 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Parachuteprone Posted July 26, 2013 Share Posted July 26, 2013 It's not about wearing out, it's about testers' and developers' fatigue. Once that you start preparing a release, everybody gets into high gear, and you just HAVE to get it out of the door at some point. With shifting release deadlines there's a serious danger of feature creep (well, it's more of a temptation with the associated danger of introducing new problems).You cannot maintain the (positive) tension of a pre-release phase forever, at some point we just have to let go. Which is why you should just release it tomorrow and get it overwith. Just think. All the pressure would be off your shoulders and you could just relax on the deck with a beer in your hand this weekend 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tacbat Posted July 26, 2013 Share Posted July 26, 2013 I was excited to read (in another thread) that there's a multi-scenario op included, possibly two. Can we get a little more info on them?They both involve tanks. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tacbat Posted July 26, 2013 Share Posted July 26, 2013 Which is why you should just release it tomorrow and get it overwith.Be careful what you ask for. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Parachuteprone Posted July 26, 2013 Share Posted July 26, 2013 Be careful what you ask for. I'm only thinking of their health. One must sometimes make sacrifices. That ! and I'm on vacation. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mpow66m Posted July 26, 2013 Share Posted July 26, 2013 I was excited to read (in another thread) that there's a multi-scenario op included, possibly two. Can we get a little more info on them?the whole sim has been cancelled due to the sequester.:eek2: 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OnAlienware Posted July 26, 2013 Author Share Posted July 26, 2013 They both involve tanks.I hope one's 80s Europe, and the other's contemporary Middle East. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Ssnake Posted July 26, 2013 Members Share Posted July 26, 2013 Which is why you should just release it tomorrow and get it overwith.Just think. All the pressure would be off your shoulders No. I would replace testing pressure against pressure from customers who complain that the title was released prematurely. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gibsonm Posted July 26, 2013 Share Posted July 26, 2013 I hope one's 80s Europe, and the other's contemporary Middle East.Hope dashed.Next! ... 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Azure Lion Posted July 26, 2013 Share Posted July 26, 2013 No. I would replace testing pressure against pressure from customers who complain that the title was released prematurely.I agree. And remember, no official release date has been released. There was mention of when eSim was aiming for, but as we all know plans don't always go as planned. I for one would rather wait and have a completed product than have it incomplete now. I honestly don't want any pressure on eSim while they do what I consider a great favor to their fans. I for one am very grateful for Steel Beasts as well as what they are implementing in 3.0. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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