Whisky-Delta Posted February 22, 2014 Share Posted February 22, 2014 Found the source of my info and it is correct the SB Pro CR2 is already modeled as the 74 ton combat weighthttp://www.steelbeasts.com/sbforums/showthread.php?t=18881&page=4Just scroll down to Ssnake post, the wiki must be out of dateIt seems originally when released it was an error and modeled at the 62.5 tons but has since been rectified.So CR2 commander are you suggesting a current 1200bhp engine and gearbox CR2 was compared to a MTU 1500bhp equipped CR2 and the original came out on top?Whisky 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tjay Posted February 22, 2014 Share Posted February 22, 2014 Boom Boom, pull the other one OK, let me try this. TWANG! How was that? 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CR2_Commander Posted February 22, 2014 Share Posted February 22, 2014 DT22AA has been used to trial quite alot of upgrades including new gen thermals, tracks. 62KK62 was used fof the 120mm smooth bore.Ref the MTU engine, the CR2E is fitted with it also. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lavictoireestlavie Posted February 22, 2014 Share Posted February 22, 2014 the Tankograd Challenger 2 book says that the weight of the Challenger 2 modelled in SB is about 65 tons. With the 74,84 ton Challenger 2 TES i ment the latest street fighter "megatron" version. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alicatt Posted February 23, 2014 Share Posted February 23, 2014 Off topic has anyone tried the the "Spin Tyres" demo? I advise you all too if you have not. While the graphics are good the terrain deformation and physics is just like nothing else. I am not often "blown away" by games any more as most just focus on amazing graphics which is impressive up to a point.....This on the other hand.... http://spintires.com/#!/demo Dare I say "imagine that in SB Pro!!" Whisky The original demo came out around 2011, I backed their kickstarter when they put that up, it has been an interesting project to watch over the years. @Darklabour: the 300 meters is a huge improvement from when the first demo came out and it was only in the dark and visibility was a few 10s of meters 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DarkLabor Posted February 23, 2014 Share Posted February 23, 2014 @Darklabor: the 300 meters is a huge improvement from when the first demo came out and it was only in the dark and visibility was a few 10s of metersI know. But still.The technology looks promising, that's obvious. But it remains a post stamp sized area compared to an opened world engine. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dejawolf Posted February 24, 2014 Share Posted February 24, 2014 62.5t is unladen weight. 64t with ammo fuel etc and full up weight with add on armour etc is a bit more!Ref the CV12. That 1200bhp was when the engine control unit was the old DASCU. Its been upgraded the last few years to a new unit.Believe it or not the CR2 has been trialled with a 1500bhp MTU. The CV12 CR2 was asked to slow down when doing X country comparisons.Edit to add. I think the TN Brown gearbox had more to do with it than the engine.hmm, so challenger 2 is actually 2 tonnes heavier than the CR1, and not just .5 tons heavier? 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hoggydog Posted February 25, 2014 Share Posted February 25, 2014 hmm, so challenger 2 is actually 2 tonnes heavier than the CR1, and not just .5 tons heavier? It could just be down to the UKs growing obesity problem 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Moderators Volcano Posted February 25, 2014 Moderators Share Posted February 25, 2014 62.5t is unladen weight. 64t with ammo fuel etc and full up weight with add on armour etc is a bit more!Ref the CV12. That 1200bhp was when the engine control unit was the old DASCU. Its been upgraded the last few years to a new unit.Believe it or not the CR2 has been trialled with a 1500bhp MTU. The CV12 CR2 was asked to slow down when doing X country comparisons.Edit to add. I think the TN Brown gearbox had more to do with it than the engine.I read somewhere that it was only the Challenger 2E that received the engine upgrade to 1500 hp and all UK Challenger 2s are still at 1200 hp, is that true? If not, then when were UK CR2 engines replaced? 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CR2_Commander Posted February 25, 2014 Share Posted February 25, 2014 Sorry to make it clearer. No British CR2 have the 1500bhp engine. Just alluded to the fact the engines went head to head on CR2s. There has been a lot of trialing of new equipment for CR2 on the ATDU CR2s. Obviously not all have been taken to the Armys CR2, whether through cost or maybe a bit better than whats fitted but doesn't justify the new cost of replacing the older equipment. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DarkLabor Posted February 25, 2014 Share Posted February 25, 2014 The Challenger 2E was fitted with the europowerpack (MTU 883 with KA500).The Challenger 2 is fitted with the CV12 and TN54.The rumours about the new 1500hp engine had been around for a couple of years.But to date, it's just unproven and definately wrong to my ears.Here what the CV12 sounds like : JC1mtAR5uK0 And here what the MTU883 sounds like :dEP-ltelc9g The MTU883 definately has a specific purr. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lt DeFault Posted February 25, 2014 Share Posted February 25, 2014 What is this for? 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Grenny Posted February 25, 2014 Share Posted February 25, 2014 What is this for? cable cutter 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Invader ZIM Posted February 25, 2014 Share Posted February 25, 2014 It certainly looks fearsome!!I'm interested in all that electronic gear/various antennas on the rear of the turret, my guess is counter IED EW system. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Grenny Posted February 25, 2014 Share Posted February 25, 2014 It certainly looks fearsome!!I'm interested in all that electronic gear/various antennas on the rear of the turret, my guess is counter IED EW system.No, Its for broadband connection, so that crew can access and update their facebook accounts ;-) 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CR2_Commander Posted February 25, 2014 Share Posted February 25, 2014 Thats what the HCDR radio is for. With the use of a messaging gateway, we should be able to check our emails. Bowmans great if we set it all up properly. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hedgehog Posted February 26, 2014 Share Posted February 26, 2014 No, Its for broadband connection, so that crew can access and update their facebook accounts ;-)Yup. You only need that antenna fit in either Dorset or Wiltshire.The reception is rubbish. You need all that copper and fibreglass just to talk to your wingman.:men_ani: 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lt DeFault Posted February 26, 2014 Share Posted February 26, 2014 cable cutter Thx. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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