Gibsonm Posted July 28, 2014 Author Share Posted July 28, 2014 Same as TankHunter then. At least now Hoggydog is aware of some possible vacancies and can plan accordingly. Of course if Hedgehog is worth his salt as a 2IC he should be PMing Hoggydog right about now to give him an update. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hoggydog Posted July 29, 2014 Share Posted July 29, 2014 Hoggy knows all ...and is busy scratching around to get my staffing list sorted, needless to say CT Perseus will be ready to roll in some way shape or form. another update though. Killjoys PC has gone into meltdown so I do not know if he will be available for his role in Pegasus. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gibsonm Posted July 29, 2014 Author Share Posted July 29, 2014 Hoggy knows all ...and is busy scratching around to get my staffing list sorted, needless to say CT Perseus will be ready to roll in some way shape or form. another update though. Killjoys PC has gone into meltdown so I do not know if he will be available for his role in Pegasus. Ah the joys of having to go with what you've got. If Killjoy finds where to put the chewing gum and fuse wire, happy for him to cut back to you (I can do the Helos from BG but the CTs need the people). Any news on CR2 Commander and Bogusheadbox or is that something you'll find out "tonight" your time? 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hoggydog Posted July 29, 2014 Share Posted July 29, 2014 Well if Killjoy does get up and running I will leave it to him as to where he wants to be, he was rather excited about playing with his Apache as for CR2 and Bogus, I am awaiting a reply from CR2 and due to the work Bogus does he may not know if he will be available until 24 hours before the event starts, the joys of being a pilot! Like I said I am scratching around at the moment. Summer is never a good time for UKA as the sun does something strange to us Brits, 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Panzer_Leader Posted July 29, 2014 Share Posted July 29, 2014 Summer is never a good time for UKA as the sun does something strange to us Brits, What, makes you happy? 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hoggydog Posted July 29, 2014 Share Posted July 29, 2014 What, makes you happy? hehe dont be silly, it makes us step away from our PCs and go outside! 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Ssnake Posted July 29, 2014 Members Share Posted July 29, 2014 Dammit, I just realized that I can't make it on that day. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gibsonm Posted July 29, 2014 Author Share Posted July 29, 2014 Ah well I don't think we have the option to reschedule - "needs of the many" and all that.Can you post what your requirements are for the "recording" so if someone else does step forward it will be done to the standard required? 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Ssnake Posted July 29, 2014 Members Share Posted July 29, 2014 My suggestion is to use 720p at 30 frames per second universally. Cuts the data amount to about 50%, which helps with smoother recording for slower/older computers, also helps later with the editing and uploading processes. What's more important however is that if several people make recordings, they agree beforehand on a common set of parameters - resolution, sound mix levels, etc., maybe even a "pre-cut" to rid the captured stuff of boring filler scenes (as long as some narrative coherence is maintained). 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gibsonm Posted July 29, 2014 Author Share Posted July 29, 2014 My suggestion is to use 720p at 30 frames per second universally. Cuts the data amount to about 50%, which helps with smoother recording for slower/older computers, also helps later with the editing and uploading processes. What's more important however is that if several people make recordings, they agree beforehand on a common set of parameters - resolution, sound mix levels, etc., maybe even a "pre-cut" to rid the captured stuff of boring filler scenes (as long as some narrative coherence is maintained). Well thanks but that's what I was after from you? My suggestion is to use 720p at 30 frames per second universally. OK done. Can you give some direction as to what you want/require in terms of: What's more important however is that if several people make recordings, they agree beforehand on a common set of parameters - resolution, sound mix levels, etc., maybe even a "pre-cut" to rid the captured stuff of boring filler scenes (as long as some narrative coherence is maintained). Otherwise there will be some video sub committee formed that will decide on its name just as the rest of us are packing up. I suspect the "team" may well now be one anyway, but you never know. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Ssnake Posted July 29, 2014 Members Share Posted July 29, 2014 The problem is that since this operation involves many different parties, it's going to be difficult to give a comprehensive summary of all the action by constraining the clip to a single side. Think of "The Longest Day" told from but the airborne component's point of view. You wouldn't learn much of the German reaction, or even know much about the actual landing on the beaches.With a dedicated camera guy for each side, chances are that there will be recordings of the same battles (at least sometimes) from both sides, allowing to intercut the action in the post production/editing process.The camera guy cannot fill a tactical role at the same time. I mean no disrespect here to the immense effort of the people who are making them, but: Many of the TGIF videos are painful to watch as the recording player switches so often between map and crew positions, occasionally doing entirely erratic things, but you can't edit it out in order to maintain coherence of the TeamSpeak talk.These rapid switches are of course necessary from the PLAYING point of view as the player often has to manage several more or less disjointed units across a rather large map at times. SO whatever gets recorded is dictated by the necessity to play somewhat effectively, and of course it makes sense to keep the entire footage somewhat uncut in order to maintain a coherent narration at least on the audio part. I get that.But if the goal is to create a visually appealing movie that provides adequate representation of the whole action, several independent camera men with no involvement with the playing are a must, ideally one for each side who is at liberty to hop from one unit to the next, wherever the action is.Another thing: Largely identical graphics/details settings would also be helpful. It probably doesn't matter that much whether the shadow map leve is at four or five, or at three or four. But whether or not HDR blooming is active does make a difference, of course. Also the absence of full-screen antialiasing (or its presence). 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gibsonm Posted July 29, 2014 Author Share Posted July 29, 2014 But if the goal is to create a visually appealing movie that provides adequate representation of the whole action, several independent camera men with no involvement with the playing are a must, ideally one for each side who is at liberty to hop from one unit to the next, wherever the action is.Fully agree hence my earlier comment about needing 6 (1 per CT [the Germans and helicopters are both "blue"], 1 for Ukraine, 1 for RusFed).But we have maybe 1 now.Absolutely no one has volunteered for the job in the manning list above and its just by chance that I dropped a hint at last weekend's Pz Btl 911 test event - unsure if its been taken up.So assuming that person can make it it will have to be single perspective (admittedly if they went Blue we could let them observe from the FO vehicle but I don't really want a CT to lose access to fires because a cameraman went too far for the shot and was). 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tacbat Posted July 29, 2014 Share Posted July 29, 2014 I wouldn't be too concerned about capturing all the action. To me, the AAR is the main thing, and any in-game action can always be recorded afterwards to augment the AAR.I did something similar for the first Op Variable campaign videos. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Ssnake Posted July 29, 2014 Members Share Posted July 29, 2014 This sounds like an ideal activity for "battlefield tourists"/"beginner players" to me, as long as they maintain the attitude to observe as if they had a camera rolling (which in fact they do), giving emphasis on the 3D view, smooth camera movements, going wherever the action is (which does not necessarily mean gunfire, as scouting can be a form of action as well). Maybe the CT commanders should give them hints.Map views are best recorded after the show from the AAR file, also possible clip inserts from the AAR 3D world view, so nobody needs to feel compelled putting emphasis to that. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Ssnake Posted July 29, 2014 Members Share Posted July 29, 2014 In the end, whatever is done depends on the goal of the film and the available assets. If there's only a single camera guy, by necessity the emphasis must be on the actual AAR file rather than capturing the action from multiple angles. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gibsonm Posted July 30, 2014 Author Share Posted July 30, 2014 (edited) Currently these are the people who have indicated a desire to participate, categorised by "nationality":People in Blue have confirmed.If you can't recall which unit is which, please refer to the first two posts in this thread or alternatively grab your copy of the "Battle Book":http://www.steelbeasts.com/sbforums/showthread.php?t=20607Various:Panzer Leader,Mudpi*, (haven't heard from him since)Myself,Tac197,pkcav39Guns:Needs to control the fires and manoeuvre the on map Artillery units - Tacbat / Grenny + ?Echelon:Needs to provide 2nd line support to the CTs. This has less vehicles post "restructure" but still important. - Azure LionEngineers:Provides bridging, recovery and breaching support to the CTs. - SwordsmandkFormation Recce:Point of the spear. Advancing to contact and trying to find friend and foe. Eyes of the CTs. V29 - VacantV29A - Panzer_LeaderVarious - Tac197Germans CT ACHILLESChef - D u k e2IC (understudy Chef, Admin)- Naggarond?I/2. - Falli, Erazor, Ricopico, LtDanII/2. - Eisenschwein, Gladiator, Mr Burns2III/2. - Froggy, Induction, Darklabor, Tom83US CT ODYSSEUS66C - dta delta65C (understudy CO, Admin)- Rotareneg1/C - MDF2/C - enigma65843/C - Connaugh4/C - RedWardancerUK CT PERSEUS29 - Hoggydog2IC (understudy OC, Admin)- Hedgehog22 - CR2 Commander23 - T12 - Tjay, Volcano, TankHunter64 - Bogusheadbox TBC89 - Viper-3Canadians CT HECTOR29 - 12Alfa2IC (understudy OC, Admin)- Brun21 - Colebrook22 - Tacom, Tango29I23 - KingtigerAviation CT PEGASUS:Chef/1. - Vacant2IC (understudy OC, Admin)- VacantI./1. and II./1. (Euro Tiger) -III./1. (MRH-90) -1/A and 2/A (AH-64) - Killjoy3/A (UH-60) -4/A (CH-47) -I./4. (UAV)- VacantBLUE = ConfirmedIf you aren't BLUE you need to talk to me.GREEN = LeaveORANGE = Uncertain Edited July 30, 2014 by Gibsonm 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tjay Posted July 30, 2014 Share Posted July 30, 2014 MarkI'd be happy to take a CR2 in CT Perseus under Hoggdog if that's OK with you. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gibsonm Posted July 30, 2014 Author Share Posted July 30, 2014 MarkI'd be happy to take a CR2 in CT Perseus under Hoggdog if that's OK with you. Absolutely! * Pretty good fit I'd have thought (Brits manning Brit kit). Given the orange there now though, you might end up Troop Leading. * Well its actually Hoggydog's call as the CT OC, but I'll put you in the slot and he can leave you there or move you around. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tjay Posted July 30, 2014 Share Posted July 30, 2014 Not sure what 'orange' means, but I can guess. It was Hoggy who suggested I join (just a few days ago) so 'everything should be OK' - as the famous last words phrase has it. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gibsonm Posted July 30, 2014 Author Share Posted July 30, 2014 Not sure what 'orange' means, but I can guess. Well if you look at the bottom of the list, the colours are explained. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gibsonm Posted July 30, 2014 Author Share Posted July 30, 2014 (edited) Currently these are the people who have indicated a desire to participate, categorised by "nationality":People in Blue have confirmed.If you can't recall which unit is which, please refer to the first two posts in this thread or alternatively grab your copy of the "Battle Book":http://www.steelbeasts.com/sbforums/showthread.php?t=20607Various:Panzer Leader,Mudpi*, (haven't heard from him since)Myself,Tac197,pkcav39Guns:Needs to control the fires and manoeuvre the on map Artillery units - Tacbat / Grenny + ?Echelon:Needs to provide 2nd line support to the CTs. This has less vehicles post "restructure" but still important. - Azure LionEngineers:Provides bridging, recovery and breaching support to the CTs. - SwordsmandkFormation Recce:Point of the spear. Advancing to contact and trying to find friend and foe. Eyes of the CTs. V29 - VacantV29A - Panzer_LeaderVarious - Tac197Germans CT ACHILLESChef - D u k e2IC (understudy Chef, Admin)- Naggarond?I/2. - Falli, Erazor, Ricopico, LtDanII/2. - Eisenschwein, Gladiator, Mr Burns2III/2. - Froggy, Induction, Darklabor, Tom83US CT ODYSSEUS66C - dta delta65C (understudy CO, Admin)- Rotareneg1/C - MDF2/C - enigma6584, VKing3/C - Connaugh4/C - RedWardancerUK CT PERSEUS29 - Hoggydog2IC (understudy OC, Admin)- Hedgehog22 - CR2 Commander23 - T12 - Tjay, Volcano, TankHunter64 - Bogusheadbox TBC89 - Viper-3Canadians CT HECTOR29 - 12Alfa2IC (understudy OC, Admin)- Brun21 - Colebrook22 - Tacom, Tango29I23 - KingtigerAviation CT PEGASUS:Chef/1. - Vacant2IC (understudy OC, Admin)- VacantI./1. and II./1. (Euro Tiger) -III./1. (MRH-90) -1/A and 2/A (AH-64) - Killjoy3/A (UH-60) -4/A (CH-47) -I./4. (UAV)- VacantBLUE = ConfirmedIf you aren't BLUE you need to talk to me.GREEN = LeaveORANGE = Uncertain Edited July 30, 2014 by Gibsonm 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
VKing Posted July 30, 2014 Share Posted July 30, 2014 I'd like to try my hand at some tanking.The US CT looks a bit thin on players, so I think I'll take an Abrams. I'd prefer not to lead a platoon, if at all possible, but a track or section will be fine. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gibsonm Posted July 30, 2014 Author Share Posted July 30, 2014 Well I can put you in the CT, but you need to talk to dta delta about specific assignments. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tjay Posted July 30, 2014 Share Posted July 30, 2014 Well if you look at the bottom of the list, the colours are explained. Got it! The only certainty one can be truly certain of is uncertainty. Of this I am absolutely certain. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gibsonm Posted July 30, 2014 Author Share Posted July 30, 2014 Got it! The only certainty one can be truly certain of is uncertainty. Of this I am absolutely certain. Now don't get all "Heisenberg" on me. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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