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52 minutes ago, 12Alfa said:

RWS on a truck? really? never seen that used on a cargo truck, metal cupola sure. (sound as it hits the bridge) :)

Kongsberg will be happy...one more item to make/repair for a customer :-)

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IDF M60s in the Sinai pullback ceremony of February 1980 (as of 0:35):

 

 

 

Note the ERA bolts. The ERA itself was removed for the ceremony, since it was still classified back then.

 

High resolution pictures can be found here.

 

Edit: the link for the pictures works well now. These tanks belonged to the 252nd armored division.

 

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The Dutch may have sold their Leo fleet to Finland, but why sell brand new recovery vehicles (and then pay at least as much for a CV based recovery vehicle (if it exists?) that will be, by virtue of its smaller size and mass, be less capable)?

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It is a thing (according to wikipedia);

Bärgningsbandvagn (Bgbv) 90, (Armored Recovery Vehicle). Two 9-tonne winches provides a maximum capacity of 72 tonnes through 4-way pulleys. Three have been upgraded to C-standard.[19] and at least has been used in Afghanistan.

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40 minutes ago, Ssnake said:

The Dutch may have sold their Leo fleet to Finland, but why sell brand new recovery vehicles (and then pay at least as much for a CV based recovery vehicle (if it exists?) that will be, by virtue of its smaller size and mass, be less capable)?

Sure, but that requires spares, etc. to be held for a different vehicle type.

 

I guess it also means the Canadians miss out (didn't they buy pre-loved Dutch Leos) on recovery vehicles?

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2 hours ago, Gibsonm said:

Sure, but that requires spares, etc. to be held for a different vehicle type.

Dutch and German troops are intertwined at Corps level, in parts down to battalion level. Apparently this isn't seen as an unacceptable logistical or operational burden.

 

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I guess it also means the Canadians miss out (didn't they buy pre-loved Dutch Leos) on recovery vehicles?

The bulk of the Dutch Leo 2 fleet went to Finland.

The "leased" German Leos were "returned" to Germany as newly built vehicles straight from the KMW factory. Recovery vehicles may have been built new - whether based on the Leo chassis or some other platform, I can't say.

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On 3/22/2018 at 6:50 AM, Ssnake said:

The Dutch may have sold their Leo fleet to Finland, but why sell brand new recovery vehicles (and then pay at least as much for a CV based recovery vehicle (if it exists?) that will be, by virtue of its smaller size and mass, be less capable)?

Tuesday 20 March 2018.
There they go...
Tuesday 20 march 2018..
Off they go....
(Dutch Leopard 2's sold to Finland)

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