Rad Posted March 25, 2022 Share Posted March 25, 2022 (edited) On 3/25/2022 at 4:38 AM, Lt DeFault said: Russian tankers are insane suicide bombers. ☠️ Edited March 26, 2022 by Rad 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BlackDeath Posted March 26, 2022 Share Posted March 26, 2022 15 hours ago, Captain_Colossus said: there is a joke in the MMO community- whether talking about war thunder or world of tanks probably makes no difference- 'no armor is the best armor' , usually with respect to a perceived problem with armor models in the games where non or lightly armored vehicles appear to be the most survivable as shots either fail to fuse or pass through or something I read somewhere that when the brits shot T-55s during gulf war, the sabot rounds did go all the way through without causing any damage, because T-55 were not enough armored. Anyway, there is no infantery in warthunder to threaten light armor with small arm fire and most people shot light vehicle using anti-armor rounds (because this is usually what is already loaded). 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Ssnake Posted March 26, 2022 Members Share Posted March 26, 2022 1 hour ago, BlackDeath said: I read somewhere that when the brits shot T-55s during gulf war, the sabot rounds did go all the way through without causing any damage, because T-55 were not enough armored. Maybe it happened, but I would not treat the explanation as gospel. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Arvigna Posted March 26, 2022 Share Posted March 26, 2022 My father told me the same thing when I was young. Not much armor gets through, it's useful. But as Ssnake says.... 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
12Alfa Posted March 26, 2022 Share Posted March 26, 2022 (edited) 4 hours ago, BlackDeath said: I read somewhere that when the brits shot T-55s during gulf war, the sabot rounds did go all the way through without causing any damage, because T-55 were not enough armored. Anyway, there is no infantery in warthunder to threaten light armor with small arm fire and most people shot light vehicle using anti-armor rounds (because this is usually what is already loaded). Question would be, if you know that the target protection is weak (T55) would you order Sabot? It would be in the crews best interest to use 120mm HESH, and keep the Sabot for the T-72 they would encounter. There is a thing as proper ammo /target procedure. And in most, if not all times (as longest tank kill) Hesh will do the job. Edited March 26, 2022 by 12Alfa 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rad Posted March 27, 2022 Share Posted March 27, 2022 Where are the strike UAVs with guided missiles and bombs? 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Ssnake Posted March 27, 2022 Members Share Posted March 27, 2022 I don't know if this is a rhetorical question. But the Ukrainian Army seems to use them sparingly (because they are vulnerable to air defense systems), preferably on high-value targets, and I guess they have lost a number of them (not that the number ever was very high to begin with, merely 12 systems (=36 flying units), of which only 9 were delivered by end of February). Bayraktars have initially been scoring very high in internet meme rankings because their engagements are filmable to begin with, and also somewhat telegenic if you like explosions. But I think their main value still is in reconnaissance and directing artillery fire, not destroying individual BMDs. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OlegNik Posted March 27, 2022 Share Posted March 27, 2022 (edited) 2_5332440483417298267.MOV Ukrainian soldiers shoot prisoners of war. Edited March 27, 2022 by OlegNik 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Grenny Posted March 27, 2022 Share Posted March 27, 2022 37 minutes ago, OlegNik said: 2_5332440483417298267.MOV Ukrainian soldiers shoot prisoners of war. Russian soldiers shoot at civilians: 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Ssnake Posted March 27, 2022 Members Share Posted March 27, 2022 I really don't want to start censoring posts. I also am of the opinion that, all other things being equal, I'm for the ugly truth rather than comfortable ignorance. It's war. War is ugly. People make mistakes, sometimes they commit crimes. There is no clean war. Sometimes pragmatic decisions are made, misunderstandings can escalate very quickly, and I think we can all agree that the number of hours in international law ans Geneva Conventions that both young Russian and conscripted Ukrainian soldiers receive is probably minimal. Videos provide only limited context, and they are usually cut and selected to support a certain political slant; in that sense, we can't know whether the videos show war crimes or the usual factors that cause fear among soldiers, and from that will come quick and occasionally questionable actions. Incompetence can often be mistaken as malice. No side wants what it perceives are the other's propaganda to without rebuttal. But please keep in mind that this will very often degenerate to what's aptly called "whataboutism". Two wrongs don't make a right. We have a rule here that we don't want to have political debate on SteelBeasts.com. That in itself is already some sort of a political statement, and I recognize the irony of it. But there are plenty of other sites on the internet where such videos can be distributed and discussed. I will not tolerate a dumpster fire thread like "Kiev is burning" on TankNet over here. So please apply some self-restraint in the kind of content that you post here. Both videos above have their justification to be shown, but both also have to potential to escalate debate here rather quickly. As eSim staff is minimal, we might be forced to lock this thread if things get out of hand, so ask yourself before posting a video if it's something that's best suited for SteelBeasts.com. 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rad Posted March 27, 2022 Share Posted March 27, 2022 On 3/25/2022 at 11:35 PM, Rad said: Russian tankers are insane suicide bombers. ☠️ 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Captain_Colossus Posted March 28, 2022 Share Posted March 28, 2022 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rad Posted March 28, 2022 Share Posted March 28, 2022 (edited) 1:03 it's me! Edited March 28, 2022 by Rad 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
12Alfa Posted March 28, 2022 Share Posted March 28, 2022 (edited) https://youtu.be/Eg1Uf3e4tt4 Edited March 28, 2022 by 12Alfa 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rad Posted March 28, 2022 Share Posted March 28, 2022 (edited) Video playback at a speed of 0.25, NLAW missile flight is visible, the shot is too close (firing range 20 - 600 m), the missile crashed without detonating a 102 mm HEAT warhead. You need to shoot NLAW in a horizontal plane. Edited March 30, 2022 by Rad 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Captain_Colossus Posted March 29, 2022 Share Posted March 29, 2022 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rad Posted March 29, 2022 Share Posted March 29, 2022 (edited) Fuel fire from external tanks! Edited March 29, 2022 by Rad 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rad Posted March 30, 2022 Share Posted March 30, 2022 (edited) Artillery of Red side: Edited March 30, 2022 by Rad 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
daskal Posted March 30, 2022 Share Posted March 30, 2022 Probably a staged "Z" go-pro action from Mariupol: 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
daskal Posted March 31, 2022 Share Posted March 31, 2022 Nerves of steel: 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rad Posted March 31, 2022 Share Posted March 31, 2022 (edited) Edited March 31, 2022 by Rad 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lumituisku Posted April 1, 2022 Share Posted April 1, 2022 (edited) How to tow tanks with tractor. Edited April 1, 2022 by Lumituisku Changed to English version! 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rad Posted April 1, 2022 Share Posted April 1, 2022 (edited) Two ukrainian Mi-24 Hinds fired at an oil depot in Belgorod, Russia. Edited April 1, 2022 by Rad 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Ssnake Posted April 1, 2022 Members Share Posted April 1, 2022 20 minutes ago, Lumituisku said: How to tow tanks with tractor. Very helpful. I shall bookmark it as soon as I get myself a tractor. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lumituisku Posted April 1, 2022 Share Posted April 1, 2022 55 minutes ago, Ssnake said: Very helpful. I shall bookmark it as soon as I get myself a tractor. It's a meme thing. I loved the narrative. I hope that you did too 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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