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I can only see a hole that I would attribute to "a" subcaliber kinetic energy round. I wouldn't dare to call caliber and sub type. It does, however, not look like a 100mm full caliber hole to me. I've heard that steel sabots create wider holes than late tungsten or dU designs, so maybe that's what we're looking at.

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you have me beat- i seemed to remember what was claimed to be 100 mm perforations on a t-54 range target at a tank museum and i would not have ruled that out based on the camera angle and the text overlay over the whole when the camera zooms in for a closer view. i went purely on memory of what that looked like

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A short Israeli Armored Corps promotional documentary film from 1971:

 

https://jfc.org.il/en/news_journal/51230-2/113891-2/

 

0:00-1:21: Armor School graduation ceremony. M48s and Centurions shoulder to shoulder.

1:21-6:39: Centurions on desert training. Rare M48 AVLB use (the IDF had just one of these) on 4:28-5:29.

6:48-7:38: Armor School training.

7:38-8:07: Centurions in an ordnance depot.

8:07-9:01: Centurions on gunnery range.

9:02-12:14: Desert training again, with live fire. An ordnance team (on a crane-mounting halftrack) fixes a Centurion track on 9:58-10:17.

12:14-12:43: Night firing.

12:53-13:04: M48s patrol the eastern bank of the Suez canal.

13:06-14:06: Centurions in different locations, including Mount Hermon from 13:49 and on.

 

Live enemy is portrayed by Tiran-4 tanks (note the Israeli-modified fenders on 9:21), painted in outdated Egyptian colors. Target practice is carried-out on 1967 war booty AFVs: T-54/55, IS-3, SU-100, ZSU-57x2, T-34/85.

 

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where it gets interesting is the fact that if poland is going to be a base for supply, then support trains must travel hundreds of miles to follow the armor in ukraine- which means vulnerable to russian interdiction. i wonder how this is being planned when large formations are already at risk for artillery or drone or air attack as it is right now. this is not desert storm where the coalition controlled the airspace and iraqi artillery was generally removed from the equation, assuming a few to several hours of maintenance and resupply necessary at a minimum to for every one hour of action, this seems like a challenging requirement for operating these tanks. they can make comparisons as they seem to like doing, but the problem is that it certainly does not have to play out like that if the russians played the game not like that. furthermore what i've heard from some of the americans fighting in the foreign units there is that there a fair amount of corruption in the ukrainian military where some units will keep supplies meant for other units, it can be rather undisciplined and up to the discretion of local commanders to decide if they want to be generous- in other words it's not as organized, disciplined and regulated like the us military would be

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These aren’t aircraft.  They will probably get many hours of use before “hours of maintenance” are needed.  Checking fluids, end connectors and track tension doesn’t take that long.  More meaningful maintenance takes place away from the front lines.

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-this isn't peacetime operations either; this also includes not just repairing damages but ammunition and fuel requirements, or recovery stricken or disabled vehicles - at the rate of ammunition consumption for an attacking force, which it is assumed ukraine will either attack towards the crimea in the south or towards the east, this would be challenging for anyone under similar conditions

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