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Color footage from the Yom Kippur War in the Golan Heights. The photographer served with the IDF reserve 4th mechanized infantry brigade.

 

1:45 - Syrian 47th independent armored brigade T-55s destroyed near Hirbat Kanaf.

7:30 - Al-Khushniya after the Syrians were driven away.

16:00 - The 39th armored battalion CO, Yoav Vaspi, shortly before he was killed on October 16th by Syrian artillery near Ruwykhina.

21:40 - Syrian 7th infantry division vehicles destroyed short of Al-Hamidiya Bridge, near Stronghold 107.

23:00 - Mazra'at Beit Jinn

 

 

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On 6/17/2023 at 10:10 PM, Iarmor said:

21:40 - Syrian 7th infantry division vehicles destroyed short of Al-Hamidiya Bridge, near Stronghold 107.

 

Pictures of this Syrian S-60 57 mm AA guns convoy, destroyed (alongside some T-54s) by tank fire from the nearby Israeli ramparts after the bridge had been hit by an IAF airstrike:

 

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12 hours ago, Captain_Colossus said:

in a nuanced admission, the NYT just published an article that western equipment and/or training is not working

That is only true if you had vastly unrealistic expectations to begin with. Given that the Ukrinian tank crews, to give but one example, receive a mere three weeks familiarization training with a complex weapon system like a Leopard tank, what competence level can you realistically expect?

The crews will be sufficiently competent to perform typical combat tasks, but that's about it. To pull of NATO style combined arms operations you need cohesion at the unit level, a lot of practice (and then more practice) at the formation level (and all the layers between), and you need at least a not-permanently-hostile sky. Three weeks crew familiarization cannot address maintenance (we're trying to balance that by industry-run repair centers outside Ukraine), they most certainly cannot break the Russian air dominance (even if somewhat neutered thanks to a Soviet legacy air defense system that belongs to the strongest in the world), and three weeks of unit training cannot change the doctrinal mindset of the Ukrinian commanders (especially not if one key element for combined army, air, is missing).

 

The question is not whether the systems are underperforming - they perform exactly to the level you can expect in this operational environment, given the numbers in which they have been supplied. It's not whether the crews are underperforming - they seem to largely do a good job, given the amount of training and preparation granted to them.

The question is whether the press will learn to caution their reporting. My money is firmly on "No" because they have no skin in the game. Hyping expectations and then making headlines about the following "disappointment" is the core of their business. So, ultimately it is left to people like us to caution themselves when reading press reports. Every long-term Steel Beasts player knows how difficult it is to pull off seamless coordination between different armor, infantry, artillery, helicopters, expecially when the terrain is open and there's a gazillion of kilometer-deep minefields involved where breaches that do occur get closed by artillery-delivered scatter mines hours later.

Since last summer you all have maps of selected parts of the theater. If you think you added enough minefields to your scenario, quadruple them. Then run your breaching operation, even if opfor is only minimally manned, but with plenty of artillery support.

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