Xambrium Posted August 16, 2015 Share Posted August 16, 2015 Rheinmetall shows new update coming to the Leo2 in 2018 http://www.autobild.de/artikel/mbt-technologietraeger-neuer-panzer-4203368.html Video http://www.autobild.de/videos/video-deutschlands-modernster-panzer-5941207.html 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Marko Posted August 16, 2015 Share Posted August 16, 2015 Excellent find. But I will wait a couple of years before I add it to the SB wish list.LoL The new variant seems to have a extensive active defence system.Here's hoping the new active defence systems in service or development will increase both survivability and longevity of armour. I have read numerous articles over the years proclaiming the end of the heavy tank because of the proliferation of deadly ATGM's/RPG's even the Israelis after there last big incursion in to Lebanon were reconsidering if investing so much in expensive high tech tanks like the merkava was worth it, when a relatively simple and inexpensive RPG could take it out.I think they developed the trophy active protection system after there experiences in Lebanon. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mpow66m Posted August 16, 2015 Share Posted August 16, 2015 they said the same thing about the nose cannon on the F4s in VNam w/ the advent of the AA missle,lol.:c: 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AlphaOneSix Posted August 16, 2015 Share Posted August 16, 2015 they said the same thing about the nose cannon on the F4s in VNam w/ the advent of the AA missle,lol.:c:And "they" are turning out to be right, it just took a few decades. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Marko Posted August 16, 2015 Share Posted August 16, 2015 And "they" are turning out to be right, it just took a few decades.True,But there still fitting cannon to the latest airframes F35/f22 /Eurofighter as are the Russians.Who's to say in the future some type of advanced jamming system wont come in to play and fighter pilots will have to revert back to dog fighting 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mpow66m Posted August 17, 2015 Share Posted August 17, 2015 And "they" are turning out to be right, it just took a few decades.in Korea and VN the US didnt fare to well w/o the nose cannon,once put back on,they tables were turned an the US gained a lopsided advantage.Bayonets,H2H and AFVs will always be part of war,no amnt of tech will ever erase it. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gibsonm Posted August 17, 2015 Share Posted August 17, 2015 Well there were a bunch of other factors at play here too.Cockpit location / canopy design and its impact on view / SA.Refer Boyd Cycle / OODA loop. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mpow66m Posted August 17, 2015 Share Posted August 17, 2015 true,heres a little bit of an interesting read.Didnt know they had UAVs in VN.Look at the NV Piolots kills confirmed by the US. http://dogfighthistory.be/Dogfighthistory/Vietnam_Aces.html 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Eisenschwein Posted August 17, 2015 Share Posted August 17, 2015 Sorry "Auto Bild" this is the Leopard 2 Revolution Demonstrator, over 5 Years old ....AMAP-ADS could be also integrated in Leo 2A6/A7 without any Problems.I don´t aspect the Budeswehr to downgrade the Leo 2 A6/A7 fleet to upgrade them to thisor upgrade some 113 Leo 2A4 due to Spareparts- and Maintenance Problems. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
12Alfa Posted August 17, 2015 Share Posted August 17, 2015 true,heres a little bit of an interesting read.Didnt know they had UAVs in VN.Look at the NV Piolots kills confirmed by the US. http://dogfighthistory.be/Dogfighthistory/Vietnam_Aces.htmlIf true, shows who had the upper hand in the air :luxhello:, guess the history channel got it wrong.......AGAIN:c: 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hedgehog Posted August 17, 2015 Share Posted August 17, 2015 Gah! This is a thread about the Leopard, not some wishy washy Dogfighting!!! 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Marko Posted August 17, 2015 Share Posted August 17, 2015 If true, shows who had the upper hand in the air :luxhello:, guess the history channel got it wrong.......AGAIN:c:Indeed 12AlfaDiscovery and history channels shows are entertaining but they use a lot of artistic licence with historical facts my favour example of this was when they aired top ten tanksIN The US version The M1A2 came first in the European version the leo-2 did. LoL The thing that annoys me is they hire eminent historians senior retied officers Sandhurst and west point lecturer's to give the shows validity.I suppose what the hell, I would take the consulting fee and go with the flow as well. LoL 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mpow66m Posted August 17, 2015 Share Posted August 17, 2015 Gah!This is a thread about the Leopard, not some wishy washy Dogfighting!!! so when are we gonna see the new version of the Leo in SB?:clin: 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Marko Posted August 17, 2015 Share Posted August 17, 2015 so when are we gonna see the new version of the Leo in SB?:clin:Well the only two versions I can think of not already in game are 2A7 and the Revolution upgrade. cant see the revolution being implemented it has a APS that would be hard to simulate the 2A7 mite be a good prospect though. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
12Alfa Posted August 17, 2015 Share Posted August 17, 2015 Leopard 1 Leopard 1A1, 1A1A2.1A1A3 (just radios), 1A1A4 (improvements to the image intensifier) Leopard 1A2, 1A2A1 (receivedPZB 200),1A2A3 Leopard 1A3, 1A3A1, 1A3A3 Leopard 1A4 Leopard 1A5 Leopard 1A6Leopard C1 MEXASLeopard C2 MEXASSo, ya a few more to add to the stables:luxhello::luxhello: 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Marko Posted August 18, 2015 Share Posted August 18, 2015 Leopard 1 Leopard 1A1, 1A1A2.1A1A3 (just radios), 1A1A4 (improvements to the image intensifier) Leopard 1A2, 1A2A1 (receivedPZB 200),1A2A3 Leopard 1A3, 1A3A1, 1A3A3 Leopard 1A4 Leopard 1A5 Leopard 1A6Leopard C1 MEXASLeopard C2 MEXASSo, ya a few more to add to the stables:luxhello::luxhello:I was referring to the Leo-2 only but +1 for a C2 MEXAS 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
12Alfa Posted August 18, 2015 Share Posted August 18, 2015 Well our Leo-2's are different as one can tell:wink2: 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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